#9 is as low as I go for grouse and woodcock. Thank God my good friend some years back shot me in the back of the neck with number 9's while woodcock hunting in Minnesota. I'd hate to have to dig out number 10 bird shot.

Possibly the next time Chris and Dale out of the Pheonix area and I shoot Eurasian dove I can video the shoot using #6 through #10 out of a 12 gauge and a 410. They are not grouse but still a fair size bird. Most birds are shot at grouse range or further. One thing I have noticed is if you center a bird within 25 yards most are humanly taken.

Not trying to convience anyone to change the load they are comfortable with, but would like to state that like others here have said, you can humanly take curtain game birds within a reasonable range and have birds that are not all shot up.
Pellets are easily found as feathers almost always are pulled into the bird.


Francottes 26” M&F 3/4 oz. #9

December 27 2016
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December 30 2016
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Not sure why the 1st picture does not show up.

Mearns are beautiful. That is one species I have never taken. Since I have been a kid, I have been enamored with this beautiful bird. You are a very fortunate man.

Dean R has it. Be patient. It will be out this summer.
Meantime, we need you all to be writing, and submitting Interesting Parker related stuff.