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Dave Suponski 12-30-2009 06:30 PM

Bob, Funny thing here the gun is in the "Serialization Book as a B grade with ejectors and 30 " barrels. The gun is being advertised as an A with 28" barrels.
Don,t know..But the book has been wrong before.

Jack Cronkhite 12-30-2009 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by E Robert Fabian (Post 10158)
Could those barrels be cut? Did anyone get the sereal number?

I looked and drooled but had the very same question. From reading on these forums, as I understand it, the barrels should be touching or almost touching when viewed straight on. These are quite separated in that view. Again, nice to look at and thanks.

Jack
http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/1511940...1209344218.jpg

Bill Murphy 12-30-2009 09:01 PM

The letter may give us a hint. Obviously the stock books show 30" barrels, but the order book may give a clearer picture. Where is the T on the barrel flat?

Richard Flanders 12-30-2009 09:25 PM

Bill: What would the T designate? There's a "+" mark on each barrel flat; shouldn't they designate tight chokes? If so, the current chokes as stated would support honing and/or cutting of the barrels. The picture of the muzzle is too fuzzy to see if they touch; if they don't, it isn't by much. I sent that nice 26" Lindgren Daly I got back because the bbls had been cut, which they hadn't noticed and I wasn't told of.

E Robert Fabian 12-30-2009 09:51 PM

Dave, I don't know the serial number so I didn't come to any conclusions, I like others saw the choke configuration as being a little sceptical.

What I see in the barrel end pic. is lack of keels.

I'm not saying I wouldn't be a proud owner, I could find a use for that open choked gun.

Dean Romig 12-30-2009 10:31 PM

The book says 30" and the book also says TI5, not TI6 as the seller originally claimed but now says he's been told it may be a B or grade-5. I think I remember that gun from a while back. One becomes educated quickly in this game . . . or rather, some do.

See for yourselves, 130593

Jack Cronkhite 12-31-2009 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Murphy (Post 10079)
Jack, lightly struck patent lines on Parker water tables are not a sign of a refinish. Water tables rarely need more than a light touch in the refinishing process and faint patent lines are often seen.

Not sure if we are considering the same thing. Curious about the patent date stamp. Could it have come from the factory like this??

Thanks,
Jack

Bruce Day 12-31-2009 11:08 AM

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Presented as a complete restoration with an "opinion" that restorations are becoming increasingly accepted by collectors.
Cheers,
Jack



An interesting sidebar, if I may use the term "interesting" anymore, is that during the last major firearms sale at James Julia auctions, there were several high grade Parkers that were originally identified by Wes Dillon and J R LaRue, two real experts who know their Parkers, as original guns. Prior to sale I understand Doug Turnbull identified several of those as guns that he had redone. They still sold, in an audience of advanced and knowlegeable Parker collectors, for what Julia had estimated they would sell for before the restoration became known. To me this was a demonstration that high quality restorations that are indiscernable from originals are bringing, at least for that auction and those guns, high end prices.

And an observation; most restorations are lacking in that they don't look like Parker originals. Those that do, I think are outstanding, my opinon only.

Dean Romig 12-31-2009 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Bruce Day (Post 10226)
[To me this was a demonstration that high quality restorations that are indiscernable from originals are bringing, at least for that auction and those guns, high end prices.

And an observation; most restorations are lacking in that they don't look like Parker originals. Those that do, I think are outstanding, my opinon only.


But the problem in this, in my opinion, is that when it is discovered that a Parker, previously thought to be original and purchased as such, is actually a redone (refinished - refurbished - rebuilt - remanufactured - whatever term suits the gun) the value often drops considerably and what was formerly a good investment . . . is no longer.

Dave Suponski 12-31-2009 11:57 AM

Jack,I have seen patent date stamps like that many times.


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