I believe that many animals kill either for the fun of it, cats chasing mice for instance, or for practice; as well as for food. In the natural world, ie killing by animals others than humans, is never questioned. We are just smart animals and killing is a part of higher life.

I love attending bull fights, but have only been to two. I've also been to many cock fights, but never in the US. Blood sports? Yep. Murderous? Sure. Thrilling? Yes. Does it bother me? Not in the least. Does the fact that i do not mind the killing in bull fights or cockfites make me cruel? Not to me, but I'm sure it does in some people's eyes. Tough.

If people don't like participating in blood sports then don't. No one is forcing them. However, if they ever get really, really hungry they'll change their tune. Even if the game is two legged with a crew cut.

mike: i started a new thread in the off topic section of this forum.

it is titled the mike and ed show. notice how i gave you top billing...

anyway, why dont we move it down there and stop trashing other peoples threads with off topic posts?

that way you can say the same thing over and over and i can respond again and again and we can have a wonderful time being redundant!

and steve, you can join us if you like, but with no billing for now...

Wow, this took a weird turn.

ed you make off topic anti-hunting posts on others' threads and then talk about staying on topic here. Quite a contradiction.

Back to your anti-hunting feelings:

http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthr...ighlight=bleed


So as an anti-hunting double gun dealer how do you reconcile your guilt over shooting crows in your youth with selling double guns, some of which you know will be used to hunt?

mike: response will be found in the off topic forum, under the mike and ed show thread.

ed you make off topic anti-hunting posts on others' threads and then talk about staying on topic here. Quite a contradiction.

Back to your anti-hunting feelings:

http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthr...ighlight=bleed


So as an anti-hunting double gun dealer how do you reconcile your guilt over shooting crows in your youth with selling double guns, some of which you know will be used to hunt?

and now back to the original dual topics of this thread:


The new crow killer - Remington 1900

crow killing: go to utube. you will find videos about killing crows. anyone interested will not be disappointed.

Remington 1900: it has been my experience that these guns are very well made and reliable. they also sell for significantly less than other guns of similar vintage and quality. i believe the reason these fine guns are undervalued is that typically, they are heavier and not as well balanced as the big four.

ed you make off topic anti-hunting posts on others' threads and then talk about staying on topic here. Quite a contradiction.

Back to your anti-hunting feelings:

http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthr...ighlight=bleed


So as an anti-hunting double gun dealer how do you reconcile your guilt over shooting crows in your youth with selling double guns, some of which you know will be used to hunt?

You're probably right Ed. I have a Joseph Lang 10 gauge trap/pigeon gun with 32 inch barrels that feels lighter and swings better than my Remington 1900 with 28 inch tubes. That being said, the Remingtons were made to compete with Bakers, Ithacas and others of the time. I don't know what my Lang cost in 1892 but it was a hell of a lot more than the Remington.

mark: the others of the times?... circa 1900...most notably, parkers and smiths. and least we forget the lefever lefevers...course when you interject european guns into the equation, then everything changes...there is just no comparison.

its as if we were talkin about classic 1960's era american sports cars and someone asked: so how do they compare to the european sports cars?