Well I got the final letter from Mr Julia, and no he will not take responsibilty for his gun manager mismeasuring the wall thickness of the D grade that I purchased. He pointed out his 45 day warranty (which he says is the best in the industry) and said since I found out about this problem in June (auction was March) I was outside the window and there was nothing he could do. As I pointed out to him, I did not ask for a refund but I did ask for my buyer's premium back since it was his employee that made the mistake, which I felt was fair as I was just asking for the profit that he made off of me (I have already too much money invested in this gun since I have had another set of barrels fitted to it). He said no again, not sure why he asked me to take the time to email him again to "discuss" when he already knew what he was going to say to me. So I guess I was wrong in believing he wanted to right this wrong as it was his employee that made the mistake. So for those of you that wanted to know the final outcome there it is. Eric

Quite an upstanding business man our Mr. Julia, really somebody we should be proud to have in the auction industry and as a contributing member of the forum. *clears throat*

DLH

Jim Julia is in the business of selling someone else's guns, etc. He has published his policies for anyone to read. As stated he does have a return privilege of 45 days. I have bought a number of guns thru his auction and although a few were lacking in minor respects the majority were as advertised or better. I have never returned one to him or any other auction house. "CAVEAT EMPTOR"

Best Regards, George

George if this happened to you personally you'd be squalling like a mashed cat and we all know it. Eric Eis is one of the most respected members of this forum, I'm completely on his side in this. I can't imagine why you feel you've got to jump in and carry Julia's water for him. He doesn't even know who you are and would treat you the same way he treated Eric.

DLH

I have no “dog” in this matter (or cat, bird or any other critter), and should probably just keep this to myself, but here goes. I think a large company like James Julia, who prides themselves in running a fair and honest business, and certainly a profitable one, should not “hide” behind a 45 day return rule when it comes to one of their own employees making a mistake such as this one did. They should make this matter right with a smile on their face, Period.
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i think you said it rite... charlie

So should Mr Julia's "not-as-described return time" be 45 days, 60 day, 90 days, one year, his lifetime or the buyer's lifetime? If he declines to go the extra mile beyond his stated terms and conditions I don't think he should be criticized here for refusing to return the premium. Perhaps he holds the seller's money until the 45 days are up. I dont know.

I think 45 days is long enough to thoroughly check out a gun, including wall thicknesses. Checking wall thickness is one of the first things I do when I have a gun in for inspection. A very good wall thickness gauge can be had for $200.

Best,

Mike

I think the whole point here is that you shouldn't have to double check wall thickness on a gun after getting the word from someone who holds themselves up as high as Julia's does.

Should you? Yes

Should you have to? No

Mr. Julia please check your PM's.

In My Humble Opinion I think if anyone else has something to say to Mr. Julia It should be done by PM or personal email. He has provided us with more than enough information on how he conducts his business... even more than we have asked for. I believe he has answered our questions to the best of his abilities without getting into the minute details of each transaction that a few of us might wish to discuss with him in private without "airing the dirty laundry" of some less than satisfied people here. It would do a disservice to all involved to delve any deeper into particular issues one might have with a certain transaction. I think we all have a pretty good idea of the feelings and opinions of some of the participants of this thread But I think any further discussion with Mr. Julia or with each other on this issue should be done off-line - as I said, PM or personal email... otherwise we're :dh: and at risk of having this thread blocked and I think there is too much good information here than to have it disappear. :cool:

P.S. I have not contacted Mr. Julia about my concerns and may not... "water over the dam" at this point with me.