bills 3 frame 16 ga is the heavest 16 ga i have heard of....another fellows 10 ga 6 frame weighs close to 16 lbs more thanmost 8 gauges and may be possible it out weighs all parker 8 gauges.......charlie

I bet that is one soft shooting gun Charlie . I seen a Spanish sxs 10 this week for sale that was 14lbs 12oz I want to say .

Here’s a novel idea..... why not just telephone Mr. Puglisi and ask him what frame size the gun is?






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Figured no need to bother them asking about a gun I'm not buying . Just seen it was the heaviest parkers 10 listed and was wondering if it was a #4 . But it could just be a heavy #3 as well . I do need to contact them however on some other guns I am interested in .

The #4 frame Parker ten was a popular choice among early competitive shooters who were limited to 11 pounds by the rules of the Interstate Association as I recall. Many of these guns are graded guns weighing just under 11 pounds. Some of these guns were shot by Parker Brothers company shooters who did not pay full price for their guns. A PGCA letter usually mentions these shooters by name and also mentions the price charged. Not many duck hunters ordered grade 3, 4, or 5 ten gauge hammer guns to go into the marsh.

I guess that would explain alot of the field grade 10 gauges I see . I would suppose that high grade guns were perhaps better kept as well .

It would also explain why many of the ten gauge lower grade guns were not made on #4 frames and didn't weigh 11 pounds. The graded 11 pound guns were competition pigeon guns, the lesser guns were field guns.

I wonder if that is a American thing with the heavy pigeon guns . The English pigeon guns I have seen at least the percussion ones were light for their gauge . I have some photos of a 4 bore pigeon gun a single barrel that I believe was 8lbs ! Of course it was designed for light loads around 1 ounce according to the owner . As well until the introduction of the 3.5" 10 ga , a 11lb short 10 is a bit overkill I guess you could say . Personally I like heavy guns but the majority of hunters don't seem keen on carrying a gun much over 8lbs .

Mr.Bill I just seen a 10 ga parker lifter with 3.5" chambers and 8lbs :shock: