John are you referring to the rule in the challenge that dissalowes sub guage tubes?

I'm not in favor of allowing tube sets to reduce guage for the reasons mentiond previously. A 5.5 lb 28 handels differently than a 8lb 12 and so it should.

I believe the guns should be original as they left the factory. NO modifications. I see guns at the challenge that are Parker or Smith in frame only. The barrels are new, forcing cones lengthened to reduce recoil, ported barrels etc. These are supposed to be vintage shoots with vintage guns not vintage frames with modern upgrades.

I think the PGCA/LCS challenge has some other challenges as well but thats a different topic.

Rich, tubes are allowed at the Challenge, for composite barrelled guns only. It's not much of an advantage in that event, since it's a "heads up" competition. Small gauge competitions are a different situation altogether. I won the .410 event at the first Southern Side by Side with a tubed 20 gauge Damascus Parker when it was legal. The rules were wisely changed and it kept me from doing it again. I agree that tubed guns in small gauge events are an unfair advantage and violate the spirit of the event. So far, "Truit Specials" are legal, but probably still violate the spirit of the event.

Murphy,

What does "Truitt Specials" mean.

I think you are way out of line.

check your PMs we should talk!!!!

COB,

I was not thinking of the Challenge Event.

I was thinking of the subgauge events on the sporting courses at these events.

My original post/ question was brought up after multiple conversations with some folks who want to start up/ grow a shoot. They were interested in allowing tube sets so to include more shooters. I raised the question to get a feeling on how our group felt about this.

In my opinion, if you want to start up a new event you can run it by any set of rules you choose to use or devise. "The more the merrier" is a worthy base for starting a new shoot.

John, great thread. I started shooting these vintage events because I was bored with the registered target events where everyone shot the same guns, be they K-80's, Beretta's or whatever. The guns meant nothing, only the final scores. To me the gun is everything and the vintage events brought out some killer SxS's that one might never see or get a chance to shoot. I now shoot for fun, with all originally configured guns. My opinion is shoot what you want, tubes sets, choke tubes but if we are to stay true to the vintage tradition, then only original guns, NO modifications. If anyone wants to experience the true vintage tradition, then please join us at Drake's. We shoot for fun, no scorecards, lots of harassment, some pretty nice guns and we come away totally relaxed. It's always fun watching Mark O. blow confetti out of those 10's and crush targets.

So, the truth is out on how Dr. John shots soooo well. It is his " Truitt Special". I knew he was beating me by "cheating". JUST KIDDING. John is a very good shooter and does not need to "cheat" but I will use that as an excuse. Frank

I think a Truitt special is any gun in John's hands, be it a Red Ryder or his Parker hammer gun with the 34" barrels. What I have seen and heard of the hammer gun is all above board.

From what I have seen and heard, the 34" hammer gun has new barrels that are like a set of barrels could have been made "back in the day". Nothing wrong with that from where I stand.

A true "Straight-up Guy"



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Its that guy on his right, Dave "The Champ" Fjelline you have to watch out for!!! They do not come better than "Humble John" Truitt, as a person, gentleman, a friend or shooter.
David