I am a recent convert.

Will, I have a BE, CE, and FE grade Remingtons. The CE has Etoile pattern damascus. If ever you need parts call Garland Jackson at 330-669-2138 [ he's in Sterling, Oh ] or Brad Bachelder at 616-459-3636, a master gunmaker in grand Rapids, Mi. Garland makes the most beautiful top lever springs for about $28 delivered . Brad is completely restoreing a 1873 Remington hammer lifter for me right now. He's also done damascus barrels, relayed ribs, and case coloring for me. The 73 needed a new stock and he knows a fellow with a bunch of original Remington stocks - I couldn't believe it. Those Remingtons were proofed for any shell [ for that time period ], so any kind of mild load will work just fine. For my Parker 10's I use 18grs of 700X, a SP-10 wad with 16ga filler cards and 1 or 1 1/8oz of shot. This is in a Remington hull cut to 2 5/8. Good luck.

58 of us here shooting a Short Ten (hard to keep the count accurate in the 2nd most replied to thread on the board). :)

Nothing like seeing a sporting clay explode like a firecracker when I hit it with my EH 10. :shock:

if i had to keep 1 SxS shot gun(:crying: just 1?) it would be my 2 frame EH at 8 3/4 lbs and .025 choke each barrel this would cover all my type of hunting .:) but i don't have to have just one, so i have all kinds of shotguns :rotf: scott

Mine is a 2 frame as well.

1 gun . . . perish the thought

I recently traded a rare lightweight EH 28" bird gun. At under eight pounds, it would be a wonderful one gun arsenal. I would have kept it but my 7 1/2 pound 27" DH 10 does the same job and is even lighter than the EH I traded. Can't remember how many of those 27" DH tens Parker Brothers turned out. What a gun, though.

Pete,
Don't count me again as I already responded. I did however jump ship from hammerless to hammer 10's. I found this old 2 frame E grade 10 with
32" barrels and had to have it.

Pat

That's a pretty one Pat.

Can anyone confirm this for me?

I do not have the info in front of me but a friend told me that Sherman Bells reciept for a 1 oz 10 ga load had a higher pressure than his 1 1/8 oz load.
(we are not talking much increase but it seemed odd to me)

I also shoot a ten and reload Sherman Bells lowest pressure, also BP in Rocky Mtn Cartridge brass.

Dave

pete the list just keeps getting longer...i believe the light is shining brite on the old ten... charlie

Our good friends Morris Baker and Jill and Alex Papp are pretty happy too.

That's right John. He used Hodgdon Clays and 700X for the one oz loads which is hotter or faster burning than the SR7625 which was used for the 1-1/8 oz loads.

Good point, Carl. We don't want to use a powder in "the big hole" that would give marginally low pressure even in the smaller 12 gauge hole. 700X is an example of a correct burning rate for one ounce loads in either gauge. 7625 might be OK for one ounce 12 gauge loads, but maybe a little slow for the bigger hole, especially in winter. Some low pressure loads look good on the charts, but don't "sound" too good on a cold winter day. On a related subject, a couple of years ago, I did some freezer testing on the lowest pressure RST loads. I was unable to find an "off sound" or bad performing example. I can only say "How do they do that?

I shoot a DH 10, 32"resleeved gun, a DH 10, #6 frame hammerless with 36" Damascus barrels and a DH #6 frame hammer gun with 34" Damascus barrels, all redone by Turnbull. I load full brass shells done off a CNC machine with 116 grains of BP (English proof load) and fill the rest of the shell to the the top with shot.
When you connect It will knock a Canadian Honker backwards and is about the only gun I can consistently break ZZTrap with. And as usual it looks like Gettysburg after a good shoot.
10's are fun.

Wow! Some nice guns you have.

I dug up some RST 10 gauge Nice Shot. Actually, a few boxes, so I should be set for a few hunts this season. Hopefully next season, Nice Shot will have their issues worked out.

Tx.
They were junk when I got them. It was a treat getting them back on line in great shooting condition.

Quite an impressive group of 10's you have.

Pretty stout loads too. This is about 4 1/4 dram black powder load. 2F or 3F? When you say you fill the rest of the hull with shot, how much we talking here?

Love shooting black myself in the 5 frame hammer with 34" barrels. It's fun and it never gets old.

Frank,
It probably ends up about an ounce and a quarter of shot. I loaded 2 f last time.
The barrels are so stout (in your #5 frame also) it would take a lot more pressure to hurt them.
Your right, it never gets old. It's always fun and always a crowd pleaser.

Alan, tell us more about your sleeved ten.

Yup, Frank knows about pleasing the crowds with his big 10 and BP loads. The ground shakes - the sky grows dark as his clouds obscure the sun - and the earth moves perceptibly.

short tem
 

Me to Turkeys and Crows.

Amazing this post goes back to May of 2011. I have added two guns to my collection of short tens since-----two No. 3 Elsies. I found a great grade 2 hammerless 10ga Parker at Hausmann's this spring, a friend bought it. What have other short ten shooters have you added since 2011??
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t...ps2e474011.jpg

I was just about to post pictures of my entire collection of short tens, but then this "quote" thing came up.

The Short Ten
 

Just saw this thread, count me in.
Parkers---NH & EH 30" 3 frame, DH 32" 2 frame(with additional 32" 12 ga Vulcan steel bbls). Grade 2 Lifter 32" 3 frame, Grade 2 top lever 32" 3 frame, Grade 3 top lever 32" 4 frame. Nichols/Lefever E Grade 34". Lefever F Grade 32", Remington 1894 Grade 2 32", Remington 1889 Grade 4 12 ga 30"(with additional 10 gauge 30" steel bbls).

Okay, I admit it, I acquired a few vintage 10 gauges...
17 Parkers
5 LC Smiths
3 Lefevers
1 Henry Atkin
1 Ithaca 10 Magnum, does this one count if I shoot short ten shells in it?

any ducks or geese left around there?? :rolleyes:

Just found this thread too. Count me in as a big fan of the short ten. Loading brass shells for ducks and geese right now.

I have only one Parker ten. It is a Grade-3 Lifter with 30" Damascus barrels on a three frame. I bought it at a flea market about two years ago. I use it for turkeys and waterfowl - this season for my first time in decades shooting waterfowl.

so far, one Parker - fishtail 2 frame hammer gun - 32 inch twist tubes, fairly good condition for its age.

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...pseb68c65d.jpg

and a nice J P Clabrough found as a basket case in a PA antique shop, jammed locks, broken hammers and damascus barrels showing light rust on the outside but bright bores. a little luck and lot of work and it is ready for work again.

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...psbffab984.jpg

Showed this picture in another thread. 32 inch 10s and a 34" eight. missing my lever action 10 ga Winchester.http://i449.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps9799b135.jpg

I have a few new short 10s. This one, American Arms, I have had for about a year and will be using this year for waterfowl along with my Parker Hammer 10.

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/n...178018817C.jpg

I have 3. All lifter hammer guns. 3 frame 32 in shot doves with it a couple of weeks ago. A 3 frame coach gun (19 in ) barrels with no choke. Patterns buck shot great. Plan to shoot a deer with it this fall. A 2 frame that is still under restoration. Carvel

Bill,
I bought it about 25 years ago from a guy in Duluth. #3 frame. I had Kirk Merrington resleeve it and chamber it for 3.5" magnums and choke it full and modified. With the advent of steel I took the chokes out to cylinder and cylinder and it patterns great with Fasteel. I can shoot an ounce and three eights load but the ounce and five eights just kicks too much. But if your on your lead the gun will easily dump a greenhead at 70 yards.
The beauty of the 10's is the short shot string.
It's got a big extender pad on it. The guy before me must have been short.I'm thinking of restocking it with a straight stock and a skeleton butt.
A friend of mine says you can stretch those old actions shooting those big shells but it hasn't happened yet and I don't think it will. Parker's are just too stout for that.
Tx,
Alan

allan how much does this gun weigh..i have a lc smith hammerless short ten.a lefever hammerless 10 aremington 1894 agrade with fluid still barrels. a d grade parker .a ph parker. 3 lifter parkers in short ten....charlie

Charlie,
8 pounds, 3 oz. not heavy enough for heavy steel loads, at least for me.
You have a nice brace of guns! I'll bet that Remington is a piece of work!
Alan

So does anyone shoot BP for waterfowl with their short 10?

not yet, but when the Parker 10 is all set, I have a good supply of brass 2 7/8 hulls