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william faulk 04-14-2011 05:45 PM

Side by Side shoot in Dallas
 
Hi Dee,
The Texas SXS Club is having a shoot at the Dallas Gun Club on August 13.Good people,good targets,good lunch and lots of Parkers.Just show up,you will be welcome...Bill Faulk :smiley7:

Dee Durham 04-14-2011 05:48 PM

Why thank you! I just may have to do that. Keep me posted when it gets closer to that time so that I don't forget. If it's not happening in the next hour or even minute, I usually forget.

Francis Morin 04-14-2011 07:19 PM

Not a stranger any more, M'am.
 
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Originally Posted by Dee Durham (Post 40287)
I really appreciate the offers to help from you and everyone else. I, like you, do not know about the why/why not to restore reasons either. When I originally posted here, I had not a clue of what I was holding in my hand, now that I do know what I have, I don't know what to do with it.....so right now I'm at the point of :banghead: LOL! I am genuinely grateful to each and everyone here and their willingness to help a complete stranger.

-- All the response to your posts and your genuine interest in learning about this fine older 16 CHE Parker that belonged to your late Grandfather-- I find myself in agreement with Bill M. here- i would leave it as is, have a good Parker gunsmith check it over before you shoot it with light loads (RST or other premium shells made for older guns)- and all the responses your initial thread have generated here are again proof of the spirit of PGCA and our rapid growth in new memberships each year. Enjoy, and I hope you can attend the TX clays event later on.:bigbye::bigbye:

Dee Durham 04-26-2011 10:36 AM

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I wanted to share with everyone another shotgun that was with my great grandfather's other guns. I am going to have the gentleman that took this picture take some of my old parker, as is, and will post them when they are done. They will be a better quality picture than what I had taken previously and I can assure you they will show it's true beauty and character.

Richard Flanders 04-27-2011 10:59 AM

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I like your computer-kick boxing comment. Reminded me of this pic I took after my computer told me, "You want to run format C? No. We don't do that any more".... I proved it wrong....

And Dee: I used to have an American Arms dbl gun just like your last picture above.

calvin humburg 04-27-2011 01:16 PM

Richard where did you get that rubber deal on your handle I'm always chewing up axe and sledge hammer handles. ch

Richard Flanders 04-27-2011 01:59 PM

The local true value hardware store carries them. They sure save a lot of handles. You can also just use a properly sized piece of heavy rubber hose.

Dean Romig 04-27-2011 02:18 PM

I eliminated the problem on my splitting maul by welding a 2" ID X 32" length of pipe in place of a wooden handle.

charlie cleveland 04-27-2011 03:07 PM

my dad took my brother and i out to the job site left us with uor dinner and a jug of water...our jobs were cutting up old car bodys with a axe...my brother was a real life character....he took that axe and said watch this he broke that axe handle clean out on the first lick...we sure did have a fine day of just goofing around for that was the only axe we hadfor work... at about 5.00 that evening our dad came to pick us up he asked us how our day went we told him fine exceptwe had broke the axe handle but we did not tell him till years later that johney had broke it out on purpose... our dad never said much on the way home ..the next morning he carried us back to the same job site.. out he came with the same axe we had broke the handle out of the evening before except it was wearing a brand new steel handle in it...my dad said boys if you break this handle i will put another one in just like it...he left and we went to work we tried breaking that handle out but never did..... charlie

Dee Durham 05-26-2013 10:52 AM

I just wanted to say hello to everyone here and let ya'll know that I still have my old Parker and we are still kicking here in Texas. Miss you guys!!!!

Richard Flanders 05-26-2013 11:03 AM

Good to see you're still out there. I hope you follow our forum sometimes and that you have been able to attend a shoot somewhere.... and that you don't live on the riverside in San Antonio right now!

Dee Durham 05-26-2013 11:17 AM

I'm a safe distance from San Antonio LOL... I live near DFW airport. I do still read the forums ever so often. I was just on today reminiscing on this thread and re-reading all of the wonderful comments, sentiments, and advice from everyone. It helps to renew my faith in people. I would still like to attend a shoot somewhere but haven't had the opportunity to as of yet and would like to take my old worn out Parker to one of the Parker meets so it can be seen

Richard Flanders 05-26-2013 11:21 AM

If you're ever in need of a group of folks who will treat you like long lost family - and who of us doesn't need that occasionally?? - just go to a shoot with a bunch of Parker folks. It will change your life.

Dee Durham 05-26-2013 11:32 AM

Absolutely, we all need that! And there is no doubt in my mind that I'd be treated like family! I already feel like that just being a part of the forum etc..... It's just getting to one of them. It would be nice to finally meet everyone!

Russ Jackson 05-26-2013 02:25 PM

Hello Dee ,Good to see you are still tagging along with us ! Hope all is well ! Russ

Dee Durham 05-26-2013 03:20 PM

Absolutely! All is going good here. I have a new addition to my family now since getting custody of my 3 yr old nephew. So needless to say my house has been very busy with a little one running around again. Takes a little getting used to since my girls are teenagers already. Lol

Dennis V. Nix 05-26-2013 03:50 PM

Dee,

If you will forgive my saying so it would seem you are still in a win win situation. You have a shotgun in your possession that belonged to your great grandfather. For most of us in the PGCA that means a lot. When you take it sometime to a Parker gathering you may be surprised to find it might be in better shape than you think. The bores may be better than you think on the inside. If nothing else someone who knows what they are doing and can give suggestions on making the outside of the gun look better even if just a wall hanger. It is still a family heirloom and that means a lot. It would mean even more to your children and their children.

Dennis

Dee Durham 05-26-2013 04:08 PM

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It sure is a win win! I took it out of the gun safe today and was looking at it. Ran my fingers inside the barrel and it felt smooth but again I'm ignorant when it comes to what it does/doesn't need. I took a few more pictures of it while I had it out and took one without the plates that my great grandfather had screwed in to keep the stock together. I must say I was horrified at the sight and almost made me cry. Lol. I was heartbroken!

Dee Durham 05-26-2013 04:12 PM

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With plate:

Dee Durham 05-26-2013 04:16 PM

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Stock:

Dee Durham 05-26-2013 04:16 PM

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charlie cleveland 05-26-2013 04:22 PM

dee leave the stock as your grandfather fixed it if your not planning on shooting it...grandpa fixed the stock and evadently shot it a while this way...now if your planning on shooting it replace the stock and keep the old one with the gun...i ve got old 8 ga thats fixed like your grandfather fixed it ive shot it about 50 times now...your gun is new compared to the ole 8 i have...forgot good to see you posting.... charlie

Dee Durham 05-26-2013 05:01 PM

Hi Charlie! Thank you, It feels good to chat again with everyone about this old Parker.... But I don't have any plans or funds for that matter to change anything with this gun. I was just taking pictures for reference for you guys and myself.

Mills Morrison 05-26-2013 06:00 PM

If old guns could talk . . . a very interesting gun, despite the condition

Dee Durham 05-26-2013 07:39 PM

I couldn't agree with you more! I'd love to hear the stories it would tell if it could

George Lander 05-26-2013 11:58 PM

Dee: It looks like you have the compleat stock. It could be properly repaired to be better than new for a lot less than a new stock would cost. It also looks a little off face which can also be fixed.IMHO

Best Regards, George

Steve Huffman 05-27-2013 11:39 AM

16,000 + views ! MY MY Beautiful guns and Beautiful oh well .

Richard Flanders 05-27-2013 01:03 PM

And those bolts in the floorplate! That gun has a story to tell.

Dee Durham 05-27-2013 05:39 PM

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Here are more of the pictures that I took yesterday:corn:

dwight pugh 05-27-2013 05:43 PM

love the bolts...had to make do with what you had.

ddp

Dee Durham 05-27-2013 05:49 PM

Looks like it! There are several screws and bolts that are not stock. I still find myself in awe looking at it just thinking to myself "WOW!".....no words really, just wow!

Dee Durham 05-27-2013 05:54 PM

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Last 3 pictures I have:

Mills Morrison 05-27-2013 07:09 PM

There is still some shine to the metal in that first picture. The gun has had a tough life but may have more life in it than you think

Richard Flanders 05-27-2013 07:27 PM

I bet it's got some shooting life left in it once you cleaned and tightened it up and put another bolt in the floorplate!

Dean Romig 05-27-2013 10:15 PM

Hi Dee! It's good to see you back on the forum. These are some pictures we haven't seen before and I'm in complete agreement with you.... WOW!!

Have you ever sent for a PGCA research letter on your Parker?

Dennis V. Nix 05-27-2013 10:20 PM

Dee,
I think you should look into having it restored or at least replace the screws and put it back into firing condition. That gun is just too beautiful under the rust and grime to let it sit around doing nothing. It needs to be put back to work. Good luck with whatever you decide. Please keep us informed.

Dennis

Brian Stucker 05-27-2013 10:34 PM

Love the bolts. Classic.

Dee Durham 05-28-2013 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Dean Romig (Post 107196)
Hi Dee! It's good to see you back on the forum. These are some pictures we haven't seen before and I'm in complete agreement with you.... WOW!!

Have you ever sent for a PGCA research letter on your Parker?

Yes sir I have...I will post a picture of it when I get into the office this morning for you guys. And I took these pictures this weekend while I had it out and just wanted to share it with everyone here. Seems every time I look at it, I see something different and intriguing so I started snapping photos.

It does still have some shine to it yes....just the lighting and my phone doesn't show it sometimes in the pictures. I've ran my finger around inside the barrel and to me it's as smooth as a baby butt but I have no idea what I'm looking for etc...lol

Mills Morrison 05-28-2013 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dennis V. Nix (Post 107198)
Dee,
I think you should look into having it restored or at least replace the screws and put it back into firing condition. That gun is just too beautiful under the rust and grime to let it sit around doing nothing. It needs to be put back to work. Good luck with whatever you decide. Please keep us informed.

Dennis



Second Dennis on that.

Dee Durham 05-28-2013 09:30 AM

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Here's the letter:


March 27, 2011



DeAn Durham
521 Harmon Road
Hurst, TX 76053

Hello Ms. Durham:

Parker shotgun, serial number 126696, was ordered by J. M. Parisot in Palmetto Home, MS on April 8, 1904 and shipped on July 27, 1904. According to Parker Bros. Order Book No. 62 it was a CHE hammerless, 16-gauge. It featured Titanic steel barrels with a length of 28 inches. Its stock configuration was a capped pistol grip. The chokes were patterned RH full (185 # 7 pellets in a 30” circle at 40 yards) and LH full (185 # 7 pellets in a 30” circle at 40 yards). According to Parker Bros. Stock Book No. 45, its specifications were: Length of Pull: 14”, Drop at Heel: 3 ¼”, Weight: 6 pounds and 10 ounces. The price was $150.00 plus $25.00 for ejectors.

According to Order Book No. 63, the gun was returned on August 19, 1904 by J. M. Parisot to repair ext rib and frame. There was no charge.

Parker Bros., Remington Arms Company Inc. and others repaired and reconfigured guns as a major part of the gun trade. Over the years, this Parker may have undergone changes to suit its owners, either at the factory or other competent facility. Complete factory return and repair records do not exist therefore our research team cannot comment, report, or have any responsibility for work performed. It is important to note that those Parker records remaining are hand written and show considerable fading from their age. The research committee has done its best to interpret and report our findings in answer to this request and assumes no responsibility for the recorded accuracy or other work completed.

Sincerely,



Mark Conrad, Research Committee Chairman
The Parker Gun Collectors Association Inc.
P. O. Box 5772 Va. Beach, VA 23471-5772


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