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Ray Masciarella 08-21-2012 09:58 PM

Charlie

Have been working on new turkey load and waiting on custom choke to be cut but I have my turkey gun up to 318 pellets in 10" circle at 40 yds using a blend of 4x5x6x7 mix of Hevi shot and Mega weight. Going to open up choke another .005 to see what happens. Haven't shot it long range yet.

Best, Ray

Richard Flanders 08-21-2012 10:26 PM

Sounds like a turkeyburger-maker load to me! How many pounds of shot in the load to get that pattern Ray??!!

Ray Masciarella 08-22-2012 08:17 AM

Richard

It will waylay them for sure. It's 2 7/16 oz. A lot goes into it besides the shot. Primer, powder, hull, etc all makes difference but the move from 280-290 to 310-320 was as result of a modification to the wad and choke.

Best, Ray

charlie cleveland 08-22-2012 09:22 AM

ray ive still not beat your long range record of 70 shot at 70 yards in a 10 inch circle...thats some load youve come up with as richard said should make hamburger out of a turkey at 40 yards...you will have to watch it a person could easily miss a turkey up close with that load.ha ive never really patterned my guns for pellet count at 40 yards ive always fooled around with the longe range loads but you have got me interested. please give us the report on the new choke and load... charlie

John Farrell 08-22-2012 01:39 PM

One of the things that manufacturers do, is they talk to regulating agencies when they want to introduce a new product to the market. I'm sure the 3 1/2" 12 gauge shell was no exception.

I was in business 30 years ago and had to get ATF blessing before I could market a patented product I invented. The approval process was, go to D.C. with an appointment with a representative of the agency, show him the product and got verbal approval during the 10 minute meet. A letter came about 2 weeks later confirming the legality of the product. Case closed.

Ray Masciarella 08-28-2012 12:55 PM

Charlie

Have been hampered the the weather down here but finally got to do more testing. With tweaked ammo and choke, I got 141 at 60 yds in 10" circle. Will try 70 yds this weekend. I'm hoping for 90-100 pellets at that distance. The new round is a combo of 4, 5, and 6 Mega weight and #7 Hevi-shot all equal weight. Wad modified with fewer cuts and choke tightened .015. I was surprised I could tighten the choke that much without blowing out the center of the pattern.

Best, Ray

charlie cleveland 08-28-2012 06:02 PM

ray i hope you get that 100 in the 10 inch circle...ive not got to do any testing lately its my time of the year to bush hog the grass and bushes that have grown in the past year. i too would have expected you to have a blown pattern with that much tighting up of the choke..i too have fooled around with the slitting of the wads one time i did not cut the wads on some 10 ga loads and all the shot stayed in the wad like a slug...wooda made a good deer round for sure...seen a hen turkey today... charlie

CraigThompson 08-28-2012 07:32 PM

I was at a friends house this morning helping him with his PW 800 and happened to notice a recent addition of "Shooting Sportsman" I believe it was .

Anyway they had an article about Westley Richards and in the article they made emntion of something the company put out recently . A seven gun boxlock set . 410 , 28 , 20 , 16 , 12 , 10 and 8 gauge !

Thought that was kinda cool , would just hate to be the one picking up the tab for those 7 !

George M. Purtill 08-28-2012 07:56 PM

7 gun set
 
uh oh Charlie Cleveland is gonna sell the farm now.

charlie cleveland 08-28-2012 10:15 PM

farm probably would not bring what them 7 guns would cost...i mite tradem a good stevans for the 7 naw think i ll keep my old stevens aint another 3 1/2 inch chambered stevens out there in 12 ga...plus its got one of them slip on limb savers i bet them fancy guns aint got... charlie


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