why mike: why would i suggest such a thing of you and others, particularly with your sterling reputation for gentlemanly and rational posts? all i was trying to do was to remind you guys that this is forum about parker shotguns and nothing else.....

uh day...have a nice day...

We disagree about the "nothing else" part.

Best,

Mike

edgar: you lost me long the way here...what i got from your posts is that your experience and knowledge is some what recent, meaning post ww2...what worries me is when a guy goes and messes with a factory heat treated shot gun receiver that was made prior to ww2 or even earlier...according to old ed, the metallurgy of that receiver is often unknown, as is the original heat treating and tempering specs...therefore, common sense says "don mess wid hit".

No, Ed you were trying to sell shotguns, you weren't talking about Parkers, you were defending what either you or Ed Landers (or one in the same) do to these guns Torch jobs on these vintage guns is wrong even you must know it....it is wrong (forget about making a buck):banghead: Ok JD or Jeff delete me.....Eric

Yeah Ed, I am just a youngster. Even though I am a 5th generation foundryman, I only worked in the business for 35 years, and never picked anything up from my dad, or his dad. You're right though, I did loose you 'long the way'. I didn't need to be there to know how metals were made and heat treated; it's pretty well documented, and, wow, even still discussed. It boils down to your lack of my familiarity with the topic that leads you to think what's common sense. It's very easy for someone skilled in the business to have the exact chemistry analyzed and re-heat treat a part to equal, if not superior physical properties

mike: well, the fact of the matter is: this thread was started by some guy who thought you guys would like to know that there was some guy who just listed his parker shotgun collection for sale on gunsamerica...in fact, that second some guy was me...and i have listed about a dozen parkers for sale on gunsamerica from three different collections...you may not be aware, but most of the guns i sell are on consignment...many of the consignments i get are from estates and from folks who are having problems and need money...so, please do keep in mind that when you come here to grind your axe, that it is just not me involved...there is more going on here than what is in your somewhat narrow mind.

edgar: seems like you took offense at my last post...if so, please do accept my apology...it is a privilege for someone like me to be able to communicate with some one like you. most of my experience has been of a non technical nature. you on the other hand seem to certainly know the foundry business...

have you ever reheat treated a shotgun receiver?

I've driven in Texas, New Mexico, Colorado, Oklahoma, Kansas, Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Arizona, California, Nebraska, Wyoming, Montana, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Alaska, Hawaii and Tenessee.

I've never driven in New Hampshire. Ed would you argue that I am not qualified to drive in New Hampshire since I haven't driven there before. Surely not.

Best,

Mike

No offense taken Ed.
There used to be a pretty good commercial steel foundry in Claremont, Joy Manufacturing owned it.
No, I have never done any shotgun heat treating. I'm getting ready to, but plan on giving it to a pro. I have done a few Winchester lever gun parts, but since retiring, don't have access to a good Thermoline anymore. I made Colt's heat treat boxes, and poured myself an extra one (CA6-NM, Martinsitic Stainless steel)

Mike, if you've driven in AK and CO, you're qualified to drive in NH. It's all up and down there too.