Runs,

I rest my case.


DLH

Mr. Hoffard,

If you have an itch under your kilt, by all means - scratch it. But - please don't do so in public. I don't want to see it - and my guess is - no one else wants to scratch your itch, either. So please feel free to do so in private.

Not public.

My thanks,

John

What a great day for a hike in the woods and let the dog run.

Maybe you are right-
 

My point was- if Destry H. is on the masthead of PP, which, according to recent issue, page 7- he indeed is- as Associate Editor- and brother Romig, who has devoted many unpaid hours to the production of this fine magazine we share in the PGCA, and needs more articles, I was curious as to when his next article might be forthcoming. If Destry spent half the time writing another great story (with photos) as he did a while back about his trip to storied Beaver Dam as he did posting unkind and uncalled for remarks about brother PGCA members, we would all be far better off, at least, IMO. Also, what i said about a PGCA member asking me for advice about a M12 purchase, and then suggesting that I write an article (whether it might be published in PP or not) is true. It was brother David Ross in England, and I have invited him and Russ to hunt with me here in West MI next Fall, if their plans jell.

If you doubt this, and I suspect Destry might, which is his right- then, as the late Casey "Stinky" Stengall said when manager of the Yankees- re: stats and records in MLB-- "Well, you can always go and look it up somewhere"-- a checky-check of both my PM's and David's (open to all here) will so verify my statement.

Like all of us, I do have my faults, and I will freely admit that without reservations- But being disloyal to my friends isn't one of them!!!:bigbye:

Sorry Francis I still do not see your point. So Destry is listed as an Asso. Editor in PP so what, he has written articles in the past for the PP and given great accounts of his hunts on this board so why are you still trying to beat him up..? Sorry don't get it. Just leave this thread alone it's getting very tiresome listening to your posts :banghead:, I agree with Bruce maybe JD should just shut down this thread. It's getting old. I thought we were talking about near new or new in box shotguns and you have taken someplace else. Eric

I did not make it all the way to your "point".

As I told Mr. Hoffard - if you have an itch in your kilt - scratch it in private.

Thank you.

John

All BS aside the LC Smith is a wonderfull and rare gun indeed. It aspires to a certain buyer/collector being NIB. That genre is no longer my cup of tea but that doesn't detract from this wonderfull shotgu. I have had NIB guns befor, a couple of repo's and a Win M70 .358 FWT with all the paperwork. I sold them all and haven't regretted it as I want to "enjoy the color" befor the next caretaker does.

Oint well taken, Rich
 

I have gone the opposite route in my gun purchases (except for one- happened to be a LC Smith) as I ascribe to the Ernest Hemingway school of thought re: guns- that being- "A gun is to shoot" With the possible exception of his G&H Springfield, his Model 12 with solid rib, and a few Winchester .22's- he bought almost all his guns second or even third hand--

I was wrong to comment on the box and tag- I am a "doubting Thomas" by nature when it comes to spending my $- and tend to view some things as possibly being 'counterfeit' just because of the old adage- "If it sounds too good to be true, it ain't"!! I do see Galazan's advertising L.C. Smith hang tags- blank for about $35.00 and I wonder -why? But, there are those, and rightfully so, that want the original boxes, tags, instruction booklets as much as the near MINT gun itself.

About 4 years ago I bought a 12 Grade 1 LC Smith- DT- 30" that had been restored- supposedly by Turnbull, although the seller didn't have the provenance to prove it- looked like a new Smith- flawless- and I took it out a few times for banr pigeons and shot it very well- BUT- something about the "New" compared to my "wear with care" guns- so when a friend offered me about what I paid for it- I sold it to him. He's as happy as a lark with it-:cool::cool::cool:

I don't know how Smiths compare to Parkers in price, but I can say that Smiths are good guns and were popular during the hay day of the Parker. There are Smith collectors who would know more that Parker guys, I'd guess, but I'd be proud of your gun if it was mine. I'd also shoot it, but I shoot everything that I own.

Twenty grand? That's a pile of dough ray me.

Twenty grand- indeed, a big pile- even in Tens
 

-- Steve- may I suggest you get a hold of a copy of the great Houchin's book on the LC Smiths--what a bible of detail, great photos, celebrities who owned and shot Smith guns- he has a price and grade comparison table between Smiths and Parkers that might shed more light on your questions. Best--:bigbye: