Most International Skeet shooters and box bird shooters catch their empties and quietly deposit them in the proper receptacles. Not a negative comment on shell swatters, it's just the way it is. The Olympic Skeet Mixed Team finals did not come off with this polite way of disposing of empties because, oddly, the hosts did not place receptacles next to the shooters the way it is usually done. However, the shooters caught their empties and tossed them to the front of the shooting stations, out of the way of shooters. It was very pleasant to watch this "good behavior".

With me, its the kitchen table gunsmith jobs that are usually deal killers. Buggered up screws, cut stocks with badly fitted pads, cut barrels, and any kind of pitting.

I'm not a fan of recoil pads to begin with, so badly fitted hack jobs are a real turn off (even though many can be fixed).

One more, why do people feel the need to put a pad on a .410? Just me.

Yep.... I saw that once.....

Or a 16, 20 or 28 for that matter? A Silvers pad isn't that soft either but I can see it being used to increase LOP.

I will not purchase a gun with excuses. "Great gun but has a repair the the stock" etc. There are enough guns out there that do not have excuses.

I call those "but" guns

1. Pinned stocks.
2. Smaller bore than 12
3. Straight stock
4. Non colt 1911s

I will not buy a rifle in .308, .30-06, .30-30 or .270 (unless the .308 or .30-06 is full auto) nor will I buy a repeating lever rifle.

Hmmm 06 and 308 are not in my top ten favorite cartridges however ........ I have one of each in Mannlicher Schoenauer carbines and a 270 for good measure as well as 243 , 6.5x54MS and 7x57 :cool:

You do like those Mannlicher guns! I had one years ago that was a .22 mag. Neat little gun.