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James L. Martin 05-04-2020 07:18 PM

The more I think about that barrel the more I believe those Winchester long beard shells may have been at fault. They use new technology that may not be compatible with the old shotgun's we love. They may have lead shot but that resin plus 1 7/8 oz of shot may just be a formula for disaster.

Rick Roemer 05-04-2020 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by larrystauch (Post 301875)
I would send some pictures to Galazans, they are the factory. Galazans will work on 21s only and they can probably do the replacement barrel factory new.
They do exceptional work on 21s, cosmetically as well as mechanically. No disrespect to these other outstanding gunsmiths, but why would you go to anyone but the factory.

This is more great advice. Called them today. Thx

Rick Roemer 05-04-2020 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by James L. Martin (Post 301906)
The more I think about that barrel the more I believe those Winchester long beard shells may have been at fault. They use new technology that may not be compatible with the old shotgun's we love. They may have lead shot but that resin plus 1 7/8 oz of shot may just be a formula for disaster.

This is what I feared all along. I’m very cautious with my Damascus barrels and only shoot RST in everything else. I guess I figured modern ammo was ok in my Winchester magnum. Wrong by me.

Rick Roemer 05-04-2020 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Murphy (Post 301903)
Why would you throw the shells in the garbage when the payload may have turned into an oversized solid mass that could have destroyed your gun? Oh, well, we tried.


Hi, not sure I understand your comment here. “We tried.?” Thx for clarification

Rick Roemer 05-04-2020 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil Yearout (Post 301905)
Better hope they don't burn garbage at the city dump :)!

Actually these would go to our local sheriff who has a system of disposing of unused ammo.

Larry Stauch 05-04-2020 08:22 PM

Galazan repair work
 
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I've had to send this one to Galazan's after some of the others had their try.
Now, no problems.
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Rick Roemer 05-04-2020 08:24 PM

Holy moly- what a gun! Thx for sharing

Jerry Harlow 05-04-2020 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick Roemer (Post 301913)
Actually these would go to our local sheriff who has a system of disposing of unused ammo.

My original post about the bridging of the Tungsten Matrix was on the assumption that they were used to kill the turkey. But do I understand that the Winchester shell did the damage? Either way, one or the other did or started the damage previously. If you had shot some of the Kents before in that barrel, the splitting could have been started by the large shot and the unforgiving resin packed Long Beards XRs finished it off.

But if you want to dispose of the shells, send them my way. They'll go through my Browning BPS, Franchi 912 Variomax, or Beretta Xtrema sewer pipes just fine.

Bill Murphy 05-05-2020 09:21 AM

Rick, my comment was disappointment that you didn't try to establish cause by dismantling the shells to determine whether the shot had bonded into a mass or to determine whether the powder charge was equal in all the shells in the box. I am very sympathetic to your situation. I have been trying to buy a cheap damaged set of Model 21 barrels for years, to mate with my cutaway Model 21, without success.

Bill Murphy 05-05-2020 09:23 AM

Larry, can you tell us about your pictured gun? It is outrageous in its engraving. Who did it?


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