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Mark Ray 05-16-2018 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Cronkhite (Post 243989)
Parker Pacmania - Could look like this if you have succumbed

Jack,

Tell me about the "Borden Parker"? My business is named Borden Insurance, and my partner Allen Borden, is a Borden Dairy family guy.

Rich Anderson 05-16-2018 03:57 PM

I'm proud of myself as I have recently let go of 10 rifles BUT I have purchased 4 shotguns and commissioned another custom rifle:eek: BUT I'm 5 spaces in the various safes to the good:rotf:

The 12 step program is a myth, I can never get past step two:banghead:

Mills Morrison 05-16-2018 05:26 PM

One step forward and two steps back

Bill Murphy 05-16-2018 06:06 PM

Listen carefully. If you are not a carpenter and want to get your stuff under control, contact the people that I contacted to get my stuff under control. sales@7.62x54R.net They are a very professional Georgia company that manufactures completely finished gun racks that are screwed to your walls, in any design that you select from their voluminous selection on their website. Their main clientelle seems to be collectors who want to display their 7.62X54 Mosin Nagant rifles. The owner of the company is a serious historian on Mosin Nagants. However, I seriously turned their business around to build racks for shotguns, two level easy access racks, custom cut for single barrel, double barrel, you name it, with butts cut for eight gauge guns if you wish. Their standard rifle butt cuts are way too narrow for our shotguns. Specify butt trays at six and a half inches minimum. Everything comes in shrink wrapped packaging and no mistakes. Save money by ordering the racks unfinished. Mine are still unfinished and they look just fine. Two of my shooting buddies are semi-professional woodworkers and recommended that I use these people. One of my buddies has headed up the installation of my racks and is very impressed with 7.62X54R.net and their craftsmanship and prices. Your only job is to determine the distance from the top butt placement to the ceiling to accommodate your longest gun.
Then you don't have to worry about the floor to second level support. It is predetermined. The butt section of the top level guns is the barrel rest for the lower level guns, one piece of lumber. I think this is a design feature they created for my racks. You do have to specify the shape, (square or round) of the barrel channels, depending on whether you are racking single barrel or double barrel guns. Contact me by PM if you have questions.

Jack Cronkhite 05-16-2018 07:08 PM

Mark: The Borden Parker is a beautiful DHE 12 ga 28" Titanic barrels F/F with CPG and SBP. It was ordered by Charles W. Dimmick , a principle of the US Cartridge company in 1906 for presentation to Sir Frederick William Borden in 1907. The barrels are factory engraved on the top rib with Sir Frederick Borden. I would argue that this Parker may well be the most important Canadian Parker, certainly not by grade as I know of several A's B's and C's in Canada; rather, important by its significant Canadian provenance. Sir Frederick Borden was a Minister of the Crown in the Canadian Parliament, along with being an entrepreneur of note and a medical doctor. There is a biography of the man published under the title A Knight in Politics - that I profess is a fairly dry read but I got through it. His legacy is transforming a British commanded militia into a Canadian commanded free standing army. He needed a lot of ammunition to train troops and I suspect (yet to prove) that the US Cartridge Company of Baltimore played a role and the DHE was possibly a "token" of appreciation. What I do know so far (and I admit it is off and on that I research this gun), the Borden Parker is a Meriden gun, ordered by Charles W. Dimmick in 1906 and presented to Sir Frederick William Borden. The trail runs cold for me until it was purchased by Dale Riawetz of Kentville Nova Scotia, who unfortunately passed away and his wife only believes he got it from a Borden descendant or someone married into the family. From Mr Riawetz, it went to Joe Salter of Amherst New Hampshire. He is a family friend of the Riawetz family. Joe is a respected gun and militaria dealer. He advertised it as Borden Parker. I do Google searches from time to time for "Parker" and get all sorts of non-gun related hits and just about ignored clicking on that link, thinking another obit or shooting or whatever. To my surprise it was this DHE. I contacted Joe and discussed the gun and what he knew of it. Once I learned the provenance, I couldn't resist at least making an offer. I was once again surprised to have the offer accepted. He said he had given the widow much more than my offer as a friend of the family. I think he was just happy to see that lost puppy go to a good home. Definitely a decision made from the heart not the head. So, it now graces the wall as my prized non-family gun. Dad's VH is the most important provenance to this custodian of a few Parkers. The Borden Parker is not a stay at home queen. It looked in excellent condition so I had to try those F/F barrels on some long range wild roosters. This is how I learned that mal-functioning ejectors don't become extractors. The shells ejected but I could not close the barrels afterward. I managed to push the ejectors forward and re-load and get the gun closed. I did get me some roosters. I then sought the wisdom of an old friend and he gave me suggestions, which I followed and repaired the problem. There was some binding on the ejector rod in the barrel, thankfully not the forend mechanism. With some very judicious filing (and I mean VERY), the problem was cured and it worked smoothly. End result, some nice dinners. I'm a bit reluctant to take it afield any more as the wood finish is still factory intact but I did have to shoot it. Joe appreciated this picture.
http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture...pictureid=6834

This pic is a typical December hunt for me -30 with windchill taking it to just above -40 The Borden Parker's second trip with me.
http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture...pictureid=6830

charlie cleveland 05-16-2018 08:59 PM

jack thats a nice gun and defently a good storey...if you hada ask me to go on that hunt with you i would have to said no because 40 below is way to cold for this old boy...charlie

Mark Ray 05-16-2018 09:16 PM

Thanks So much for the story and explaination!

Mark Ray 05-16-2018 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Murphy (Post 244011)
Listen carefully. If you are not a carpenter and want to get your stuff under control, contact the people that I contacted to get my stuff under control. sales@7.62x54R.net They are a very professional Georgia company that manufactures completely finished gun racks that are screwed to your walls, in any design that you select from their voluminous selection on their website. Their main clientelle seems to be collectors who want to display their 7.62X54 Mosin Nagant rifles. The owner of the company is a serious historian on Mosin Nagants. However, I seriously turned their business around to build racks for shotguns, two level easy access racks, custom cut for single barrel, double barrel, you name it, with butts cut for eight gauge guns if you wish. Their standard rifle butt cuts are way too narrow for our shotguns. Specify butt trays at six and a half inches minimum. Everything comes in shrink wrapped packaging and no mistakes. Save money by ordering the racks unfinished. Mine are still unfinished and they look just fine. Two of my shooting buddies are semi-professional woodworkers and recommended that I use these people. One of my buddies has headed up the installation of my racks and is very impressed with 7.62X54R.net and their craftsmanship and prices. Your only job is to determine the distance from the top butt placement to the ceiling to accommodate your longest gun.
Then you don't have to worry about the floor to second level support. It is predetermined. The butt section of the top level guns is the barrel rest for the lower level guns, one piece of lumber. I think this is a design feature they created for my racks. You do have to specify the shape, (square or round) of the barrel channels, depending on whether you are racking single barrel or double barrel guns. Contact me by PM if you have questions.

BILL, THAT sounds like the perfect solution....Look forward to deeper inquiry!

Alexander Sharpe 05-17-2018 10:07 AM

So, as I now understand it, there isn't anything like Parker Patience, just abandonment of desire. Tied to the mast and the crew's ears full of wax, is this the only safe passage?

So, as I now understand it, there is no need for anything like Parker Patience. Why should there be? High upon his horse the lone rider charged forth to his destiny, daring whatever Fate would challenge.

Square one.

Dean Romig 05-17-2018 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Alexander Sharpe (Post 244052)
Tied to the mast and the crew's ears full of wax...


Isn't that from "Tales of Sinbad"?





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