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I have 3 20 ga repros, and they have been shot a lot
But no problem like with 28 and the 410 repros failing
With ejector stops, I am going to get 6 fixed like the way Brian does it

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Originally Posted by Paweł Janusz (Post 197919)

The whole secret behind well made gun is that it's parts are well fitted and properly hardened. The reason? Gun barrels can't be over harden as a matter effect they need to be flexible to take the force of explosion otherwise they will break, bores can be surface hardened inside to increase wear but core has to be soft, then the look parts got to be hardened for wear too, action is a same story, it has to be soft core to take shock but stiff and wear resistant at the same time, it refers to all gun parts. What that means: Complicated process of manufacturing: 1- machine parts from proper carbon content material ( barrels: some manufacturers have their own secret mix that allow for it to be light and thin and resistant to wear and force - like beretta), parts are machined and left oversize. 2 - harder and temper them. 3 - grind them to fit. But that puts manufacturing process in to a serious slowdown, now only a really big facilities can afford to do it and stand up to demand of their marketing. Beretta, browning, krieghoff, kollar, and passionate gunmakers can afford to do that, process require skilled hands and interuption. What we see on market in recent years is guns ugly of beauty full that are produced without proper hardening procedure and without skill hands, why? Because this way small factory can output huge quantity of gun a month. Huglu, csmc, and many more are machined to almost perfect fit put together, raw engraved or electro ethed, coated confident huge price tag is added to blind customer is applied and then trouble starts: why does it fall a part, why can't it be repaired, why doesn't it shoot right, why wood cracked and factory will not fix it properly, maybe replaced but then it's happened again. My advise: get money back find original, give it to a reputable gunsmith with reference who know the difference between renovation and restoration and you will have working and good looking gun forever and for less or buy gun from one of old and biggest gun makers. That is why csmc is buying all old guns out of the market.

I see you took this opinion right to CSMC when you posted this review on their Facebook page.

"Overpriced junk, engraving etched instead hand cut, metal soft, no hand fitting of parts, customers confused about their service, barrels fall a part. In overall guns look nice at first but their quality don't match price tag at all. It's PRODUCED custom gun! Like huge junk! This is what customer feel and opinion of experienced gunsmith with full machinning bacground that is passionate of fine firearms, quality precision and true hand skill and don't need to bs to make money."

Simply sad as is as customers are confused about specific manufacturer that offers reproduction firearms at very spice prices

Main reason CSMC quit making or offering
.410 Parker barells was the ejector stop plates
That were made out of a soft metal that bent after
200 or so shells and the poorly designed place that they fit into the the end of the barells, after they sent 4 replacement stop plates that were supposed to be made out of a better metal, I sent to a super Gunsmith to get
Fixed.I told them the.problem and they never acknowledged there was a problem. POOR customer
Service

I'm a newbie to this site and just bought my first 28ga PR...be kind !!
It was suggested I look up this thread as a precautionary fix.
I will be contacting Brian or Brad to be proactive :)

Can one of our gunsmiths address the possibility of installing weaker ejector springs on 28 gauge Repros? I have never had my forends apart, but maybe someone would post a picture of what is going on inside.

It’s unimaginable that a facility like CSMC couldn’t source harder steel for the ejector stop plate... heck it PB could do it about 100 years ago I guess it shouldn’t be too hard to do today.

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The issue is not the plate. It is the material that the rib extension is made of.

I'm the guy who started this discussion topic a while ago. The work done by Bachelder has fixed the problem of the plate flying out. You will find that the fix stops the ejectors from hitting the problem plate, So the ejection stroke is about 75% of what it was originally. In the last few months though my left barrel ejector has become a extractor. Has have yet to approach Bachelder about this because I do not want to give up my parker for now. With the possibility of quail hunting this winter in the south I will probably wait till late spring to get it back to them.

Need gunsmith that uses brain?