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Alan B. Webber 02-02-2019 11:39 AM

RST sells a short 10 in a ten pack box. Velocity is 1175, 1 1/4 oz of lead 7.5 shot. It's a great low pressure load, a bit expensive but save the cases and reload them. Easy for me to say: I have a whole wine crate full of cases and haven't done it yet.
You'll enjoy the loads. I shoot ZZ's and driven mallards with them. No recoil in my #6 frames.

On another load I just saw this morning Ballistic Products has a 5/8 oz, 1 3/4" ,1200 fps, 12 ga load that has to be great for Damascus 12's.

Mills Morrison 02-02-2019 11:42 AM

RST is where I get my 10 gauge shells

Alan B. Webber 02-02-2019 12:00 PM

I shoot three short 10's: one #3 frame and two #6 frames.

CraigThompson 02-02-2019 12:51 PM

I find my accumulation of 10’s keeps growing . Not my original intention but I suppose there are worse things :whistle:

Mills Morrison 02-02-2019 01:30 PM

10s keep finding me too

Alan B. Webber 02-02-2019 01:51 PM

Me too. I had to really step away from one the other week.
I've found a lot of duck hunters are not too keen on tens and don't want them shot on their clubs. They think people skyscrape with tens. Fact is they really skyscrape with 3.5" 12s.
The good news is if you put a good lead on a duck at 70 yards with a 10 you'll hit it.
That's what they were made for.

CraigThompson 02-02-2019 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mills Morrison (Post 264598)
10s keep finding me too

I suppose seven or eight more Parker10’s and an Ithaca NID Mag 10 and I’ll be satisfied :rotf::rotf::rotf:

charlie cleveland 02-02-2019 04:52 PM

wish they had made enough 10 ga 6 frame guns were we all could have had one....i love those big frame guns....charlie

Tom Flanigan 02-02-2019 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan B. Webber (Post 264599)
Me too. I had to really step away from one the other week.
The good news is if you put a good lead on a duck at 70 yards with a 10 you'll hit it.
That's what they were made for.

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There are a lot of "ifs" in that statement. It can be done if you are using a pellet size that will have sufficient retained energy at 70 yards, if the gun will throw a dense enough pattern to get the required number of shot in the bird for a clean kill (1 1/4 oz. 10 bore loads won't do it anywhere near consistently) and if the shooter is skilled in long range shooting and has taken plenty of shots at paper at 70 yards to make sure his gun and loads will do the job humanely.

Captain Charles Askins and Elmer Keith, early proponents of long range shooting, killed a lot of waterfowl at 70 yards and beyond, but they knew their guns and loads intimately through a lot of work at the pattern board. They knew what it took to kill consistently at long range and they were diligent in making sure that the guns and loads they used were sufficient for the task. There was no guess work with those boys. They did it the way it needs to be done.

Taking shots at extra-long range, regardless of the gauge of the gun, without doing the required due diligence with both gun and loads, is sky busting in my opinion. I must admit that I have little patience for sky busters. It has always been a pet peeve of mine.

charlie cleveland 02-03-2019 10:07 AM

the ten ga short 2 7/8 shell with bismouth bb size shot will cleanly kill a duck a big duck or goose at 70 yards and the 3 1/2 inch 10 ga with 2 1/4 ounces of bismouth bb shot will kill cleanly at 70 yards...i have tested these guns many times on paper and cans....the holdback to this range at 70 yards is having a person who can handle one of the big guns and bee able to shoot them well...the 12 ga 3 incg gun and the 3 1/2 inch 12 ga will also kill cleanly at this range...the guns are capable but most shooters at this range are only sky busting them but the right man with these guns will be as good ascaptain charles askins and elmer keith.....my dad was a fine long range duck shooter but i am not with the same gun.....charlie


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