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Mills Morrison 01-16-2020 01:40 PM

Wake up Bill! Wake up!

Craig Budgeon 01-16-2020 03:29 PM

Craig, I am sure that every member of this forum hopes your DH 12 remains a bargain in the future. Enjoy your good fortune, maybe the person who sold you the DH was using the money he received from you into a bigger bargain for him.

JasonPeck 02-19-2020 12:15 PM

Imagine how the prices would skyrocket if we were only allowed to keep 6 guns each, such as they do in Sweden. There is a company here in Canada that specializes in importing the "unwanted" guns from Europe. The gun shows here are flooded with low quality Swedish sporterized rifles, combo guns and European shotguns of all kinds. My personal goal is to get down to that 6 gun limit. Deciding which ones to keep is the hard part.

Richard Flanders 02-19-2020 12:19 PM

Jason, is that 6 guns on each side of and behind your recliner and in each room of the house or 6 guns total for the house??? I'm confused....:p

Rich Anderson 02-19-2020 01:01 PM

I have more than 6 guns in 16 and 20:eek: I just couldn't live by that rule:nono:

Mills Morrison 02-19-2020 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich Anderson (Post 293898)
I have more than 6 guns in 16 and 20:eek: I just couldn't live by that rule:nono:

Me too. That law is a non-starter for me.

Milton C Starr 02-19-2020 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mills Morrison (Post 293899)
Me too. That law is a non-starter for me.

Im surprised no one has said this yet , but thats when you say you lost all but 6 in a tragic boating accident :whistle:

Craig Larter 02-19-2020 04:28 PM

6 guns no way, I have trouble staying at 25 :banghead:
But I have tried to stay on theme, waterfowl guns, and I have tried to keep upgrading grade and condition. My favorite guns are one of just a few examples and in original but not necessarily high condition. I'm not big on super high condition common guns.

Rich Anderson 02-19-2020 05:08 PM

At one time I had 6 rifles in 7X57 now I'm down to three. I might be able to handle 6 straight grip, 6 pistol grip, 6 splinter forearm, 6 BTF ect

Mills Morrison 02-19-2020 05:13 PM

The rifle collection could use some additions. That will happen

Rich Anderson 02-19-2020 05:15 PM

Be very careful Mills your treading on a slippery slope:)

Craig Larter 02-19-2020 05:47 PM

I still think it's good to have a theme when collecting, it could be one of a thousand themes but collect what floats your boat. I have a bunch of friends who love vintage side by sides but we rarely run up against each other. We have a Ithaca guy, a condition guy, a 32" small bore guy, a one in every gauge Parker guy, a fixer up guy, a new one every week guy, a Sterlingworth guy, etc. I love my big waterfowl guns and they make me smile everytime I take them off the rack and swing on an imaginary duck.
I don't try to understand rifle guys, to me they hold little interest but I am 100% sure they get the same high from handling their favorite rifle.

Reggie Bishop 02-19-2020 05:52 PM

I grew up hunting quail, dove, crows and rabbits. Quail hunting will always be special and I will always have a few quail guns. But the long barrels work on dove and crows so I need a few of them as well. Themes are difficult when you have multiple likes!!

King Brown 02-19-2020 06:03 PM

One 7 X 57 will handle anything in North America.

Craig Larter 02-19-2020 06:04 PM

So no problem Reggie your theme is quail, doves crows and rabbits. Just like waterfowl guns, little early season ducks (teal), mid season ducks Gadwalls and Widgeon and late season Mallards and Blacks----let's not forget Geese. Leaves me plenty of room!!!

Rich Anderson 02-19-2020 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by King Brown (Post 293912)
One 7 X 57 will handle anything in North America.

But three will do it better. Mine are a pre 64 M70 carbine a custom 7x57 Improved and another custom in 275 Rigby.

I can hunt anything that walks the earth with a rifle lol

Michael Moffa 02-19-2020 08:09 PM

In Sweden only 6 guns, sheesh, I'd have trouble once I hit 6 gun safes.

Bill Murphy 02-20-2020 10:06 AM

I live hundreds of miles from Craig Larter, but I am well acquainted with all the collectors he mentions.

Joseph Sheerin 06-19-2020 09:19 AM

New guy digging up old threads again... :D

I just read through this, very interesting discussion as I just started getting into SxS's about 8 years ago, or about the time I turned 50.....

The interest in SxS's seems to be an ebb and flow sort of thing, although I do think those ebbs and flows are getting smaller as time passes.

A couple of reasons for this, IMHO... In my home state, hunting is still very popular, but most of the hunting today is Deer, Turkeys, and waterfowl. Hunting for small game like rabbits, squirrel is down, and upland bird hunting outside of preserves, seems to be dissapearing, unless you are able to own your own land and manage for the birds. For turkey and waterfowl hunting, the old SxS is a long way from the shotgun of choice, because for waterfowl, you have to use steel/nontoxic shot, and for Turkeys, everyone is wanting to use 3.5" high velocity shells, with TSS being the rage now. For some reason, these guys think you can't kill a turkey with #6 pheasant load....

I will say, and do hope that many of todays younger hunters get to a stage in their life, where using guns like this becomes desireable to them. I bough my son a 16ga Lefever Nitro when he graduated his Nuke Trainging with the Navy, to sort of introduce him to SxS's.

In the last 6 weeks, I have bought my first 2 Parkers, at prices I didn't think I would ever buy a nice Parker for. I had been looking for a long time, and just never saw a gun I couldn't live without for a price I felt comfortable with.

First was a very clean Parker Trojan, that I had been watching on GB for $699. Late one Saturday night after a few patio cocktails with my wife, it was getting down to end of Auction and still no bids, so I bid $700 just for kicks. Went to bed and next morning was surprised to see I had got it for that price. It's a very nice gun, although pretty heavy, and I plan to use it on some duck hunts, and shooting trap.

Getting that Trojan only made my desire to pick up a VH or nicer even more. Ran across a nice VH12ga on GI, that the guy originally had been asking $1800 for, then he dropped to $1500, and I offered him $1400 and he accepted. Will I lose money on this gun? I don't know, and don't really worry bout it that much, as I intend for it to be my primary upland gun, and have no intention to ever sell it. Some day, my son will get this one.

I am not really a collector like many of you, I am just fascinated by these old guns and wanted to own at least one each of the American made SxS's. I don't have a real Lefever or Win21 right now, and may never own those unless prices on 21's come down, or I find just the right lefever for me.

I joined PGCA because I love the fact that with Parker guns there is a group of people out there that are keeping the history of them alive, and hopefully future generations will learn to enjoy these guns as much as we have.

Ordered the Letter for my VH yesterday, and can't wait to get it.:cheers:

Ronald Moore 06-19-2020 01:00 PM

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I said I would stop at 50. 100. and now 150, I just bought three yesterday, someone asked why do you need so many guns, I always answer need and want have no correlation want always wins.

Ron Moore

Bill Murphy 06-19-2020 01:21 PM

Finally, one of us who admits to owning 150. Who will raise that figure and admit to 200 or 250? I remember 40 or 45 years ago, thinking I owned too many Winchester pump guns and that I needed to play catchup with double guns. I took immediate action and haven't entertained such thoughts again.

Milton C Starr 06-19-2020 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Murphy (Post 305266)
Finally, one of us who admits to owning 150. Who will raise that figure and admit to 200 or 250? I remember 40 or 45 years ago, thinking I owned too many Winchester pump guns and that I needed to play catchup with double guns. I took immediate action and haven't entertained such thoughts again.

When I was at my FFL about a week or so ago they had a Winchester Model 12 in 16 gauge , I didnt look at the serial number but it had the early slender style stock on it . The previous owner apparently had screw in choke tubes installed and it had one that extended about 2" past the muzzle . The gun itself looked nice but once you got to the muzzle it looked kind of out of place haha .

charlie cleveland 06-19-2020 09:01 PM

I don't buy a gun for an investment thing or an old antique car I buy them because I wont it if I can afford it...if not I may sell something cheap to be able to get it...its all about want for me....charlie

allen newell 06-19-2020 09:25 PM

I buy because i like the gun and want to shoot it. Focusing only on 16 and 20 ga sxs's. Fox and Parker. Will be selling my 12 ga VHE that Brad Bachelder restored. Stay tuned


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