Greg, watch out. You may get on the list.

Look, I have always admired Bill's Parker knowlege. I've always felt he knows what he is talking about. This thing about Black Hole of Curatorship, well he just lifted that from somebody else who didn't get his way with the PGCA , also for damn good reasons.

So enough is enough. I've received emails from friends about not wrestling with pigs, not getting into pissing contests with skunks, etc. and they are right; I've said enough and will sign off.

Enough is enough, why fall out and call people names when we all have a common interest. Lets all kiss and make up and find out about our treasures and share that knowledge with friends and enthusiasts.
I have no enemies because I only have friends.

Bruce, I have a collection of the same emails. I also have a bit more respect than you do for the person you correctly credit with the title "Black Hole of Curatorship". Regardless of how much a loose cannon he may have been for the PGCA, especially through this forum, his accusations of mistreatment by the leadership of PGCA were well founded and well documented. If you want to identify yourself as the guy who "Doesn't like Ed Muderlak" and/or "Doesn't like Bill Murphy". You may find a few who don't fully agree with you. My material is honestly acquired and freely shared. What the hell don't you like about that. Check out the article about the "Gold Hearts" gun. No, I don't know how to do pictures, but my guns and I are available for questions. Chris likes to tease me, but he has pictures of the Dupont Shooting School try gun that I provided to him. He, in turn, provided me with pictures of pro shooter Jack Fanning holding the gun. I am actually pretty cooperative with other members, including Bruce Day. In reply to Bruce's last post, I have received more PGCA member and officer emails about Bruce Day than I have on any other subject. I'm kind of glad that Bruce has promised not to reply to me and my posts. I have the last word by default. By the way, I'm also trying to share my Annie Oakley research material with the original poster. It isn't much, but it's the thought that counts.

Yes, I do tease Murph occasionally, and yes, we have exchanged some very interesting research over the years, but more importantly, I like O'l eightbore, I respect his gun knowledge, and the Parker world would be a less interesting place without him...

Bill, you might want to check that old Try-Gun photo again, yes the immortal Jack Fanning is in the image, but the guy actually holding the Try-Gun (standing next to Jack) is Louis III Parker's GrandDad, Lou Parker Sr... It doesn't get much better than that when it comes to great historical provenance...

Whoever it was that sent Bruce those e-mails suggesting he was a Pig or a Skunk should be ashamed of themselves..... Nuff said...

Best, CSL
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Chris, oh heck, even Bruce, I'm really disappointed that the Louis Parker/Curtis/Fanning/Dupont try gun isn't a C Grade so I could bring it to Louisville for the show and tell. I guess that gun, my research material, and Chris' research material and photos need to be made into a PP article.

Sadley, Peter and Ed are no longer with us, but getting back to Peter Johnson (I bought his book back sometime in the 60's) he is the one who really got me interested in Parkers and I do have a few nice ones IMHO. To give Peter proper credit I believe that he was, perhaps, the only writer on the subject who was able to personally interview former Parker employees and transcribe their knowledge and memories. Or am I wrong?

Best Regards, George

You are correct, George. However, Mr. Johnson admits to conducting all his research from home. He worked without the advantage of email and computer and did not drive as far as I know. To confirm my statements, refer to Parker Pages articles. Sorry, I don't know the issues.

When I was given a 16ga hammer 0 grade under extraordinary circumstances---Destry heard the story and saw it while gunning our Eastern Shore---I bought the Johnson book and expressed my disappointment here. I rightly got my ears clipped by members who knew Peter Johnson as a friend and Parker enthusiast. Mr. Johnson apparently did the best with what he had. I mention this now because I would have felt differently about Johnson and his book if I had read what Bill disclosed above. It all comes out over time.

Not only "from home," but didn't he say strictly by mail correspondence - not even so much as a phone conversation? (At least that's what I remember...)

Jim