John, you're thinking about it now!! :rotf::rotf:

But it’s the last time I have to think about it. :)

For many years i ran my dogs at "Driven Bird Shoots" at a put and take club. The shooters were all given a safety lesson about unloading their gun when walking between stations. Us dog boys did not rotate. Many times I would look up and see a guy walking with his hand wrapped around the action so that it meant I was staring down the barrel of a 12 gauge. My first comment was "Please open the action". Many times the response was "Nah, it's OK, the safety is on". To which my response was liable to be "I didn't ask you about the safety! Open the frigging action". Occasionlly the guy whould go back to the club owner to complain about the big guy with the Lab. Result? That man was not invited back

We have the same policy at my club during any activity involving a firearm. One strike and you are out.

Auto safety or not, that’s just dumb.

Safety rules

To be clear, I meant it was dumb that the guy thought having a loaded gun on safe made the gun safe.

I recall many years ago that ATA had a rule that anyone who argued a call involving safety was out at strike one. I wish I could remember where to find that rule.

Sorry Bill, I missed understood your post with my original reply.

Everyone does understand that a shooter can push the safety off after it is automatically gone on safe, and forget it is off, right? "Automatic" does not overcome a careless act by the shooter/hunter. Again, the real safety is in the man, not the gun.

The unspoken problem with auto safeties is that they create a false sense of security which dulls the awareness of the shooter to always BE the safety.