Please don’t think I’m arguing—I’m not. You all have more shots fired (experience) than I, but in 60 plus years of shooting, and keeping records for the last 40, I’m okay with shooting 65% on wild quail. It’s natural to me to float the bird and I know when I really “see” the bird, I’ll generally hit it.

Besides, someone has to own those high stocked, straight/splinter two trigger guns. :corn::)

One last try

New thought. Anyone got a "regular" stock for a 2 frame taking up space in your shop?

My brain kept on thinking about the idea of decreasing the pitch having an effect on lowering the barrels. I may have been too quick to believe this wasn't so, because I wasn't considering the recoil effect. If the tapered "shim", for the lack of a better word, made the toe contact space less firm, then perhaps the recoil allows the toe-to-shoulder gap close up, effectively letting the gun to drop, instantaneously.
While this might work, it won't help me on the gun I most want the additional drop in, because that gun has a skeleton butt plate. I could put a piece of carpet inside a slip-on, just at the heel, but the guy I shoot with doesn't have the patience to watch me messing about.

Could be if it’s used trap only, high gun locked it tight like the modern gun trap shooters, you can shoot it as is. However I had the same issue with a nice 32 inch VH & ended up selling the gun

William

I shot Helice (ZZ) yesterday at Tucson Trap and Skeet and one of our groups recently purchased B Rizzoni side by side. Beautiful shotgun but he needed more drop, he had a small shim insert between recoil pad and top of the stock. He showed us photos from the pattern board pre and post what a difference. He differently has more drop.

If you look at modern, higher end, Sporting Clays guns. You will see the trend to higher combs. This. by itself, doesn't help older shooters, but these new, High comb guns are now pitched, such that the butt is dead perpendicular to the comb.

Harry 2 3/4" would work. Thanks

Scott I interpret your description as a change in pitch. Haven't heard of anyone having a substantial improvement with a pitch change

This is my Runge - DelGrego upgraded CHE 28ga. It was commissioned by Shelly Gitman. It was built using a VHE 30" 28ga, also straight stocked, with Single trigger. Gitman was known to have commissioned several A1 Special guns, but my theory is he chose a CHE because Parker only made one 30" CHE 28. Puglisi measured the drop at 2 1/2", but it actually measures 2 5/16". Several people, whose opinions I value, feel that the wrist will move well in bending, and the smith I intend to use has a good track record. I'm hoping to get an additional 5/16" drop. the pitch change will go in the direction those who believe Pitch can also effect lowering the POI.
Photo credit Puglisi Gun Emporium.

That’s a beautiful gun… that I could miss birds with (but with those dimensions, I think not).