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Originally Posted by Jerry Harlow (Post 303571)

From a couple of sites. I have always heard this rule and I follow it.

"According to W.W. Greener in his book "The Gun" a shotgun should weigh 96 times the shot charge.

Or 96 X 1 1/8oz.= 108 oz. = 6lb. 12 oz., that is for a upland bird gun.

For ducks a much heavier gun will be wanted."

"Greener wrote that gun should weigh 96 times its intended shot charge to properly absorb the recoil. According to Greener, therefore, a 20 gauge firing 7/8 once of shot should weigh 5 ¼ pounds while a 20 made for an ounce of shot should weigh 6 pounds. A 12 for 1 1/8 ounces of shot would weigh about 6 ¾ pounds; a gun for 1 ¼ ounce loads (which were considered quite heavy in Greener’s day) would weigh 7 ½."

Of course this is for a gun in good shape. All of the guns I shoot have had the stock removed and the head checked, oil removed if it exists, and repaired if necessary.

My Trojan weighs in at 7lb, 10oz. It's a tank, and heaviest SxS I own, the NID I have with same length barrels weighs exactly 7lbs.

I use that exact Federal load and have for over 30 years on Parkers. Great . I recommend it.

A 1 1/8 oz and 3 dram load has been the Parker standard 12 ga load for 140 years. If your Parker is now so infirm that such loads cannot now be used comfortably , I would relegate the gun to wall hanger status.

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Originally Posted by Bruce Day (Post 303721)

If your Parker is now so infirm that such loads cannot now be used comfortably , I would relegate the gun to wall hanger status.

We have a "Thumbs Up" button in the lower right to say "Thanks" to a post we agree with but I can't seem to find the "Thumbs Down" button to say "No Thanks" to a post we don't agree with.

My point is that it's not about the barrels or the frame being infirm - It's about the wood which is anywhere from 75 to 145 years old and most likely will suffer in one way or another from such pounding... even if it is only the 1 or so boxes of shells fired at wild pheasants each year.

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I am not interested in any guns with decrepit wood.

Not decrepit wood. Pair of CHE 16 gauges.

I’m not either but sometimes some of us have to “settle” if we want the gun for all of its other attributes... and we need to shoot them.

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Originally Posted by Bruce Day (Post 303733)

I am not interested in any guns with decrepit wood.

Unfortunately, sometimes you don't know until it breaks.

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I agree, but as with most things this day, faster = better.

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Punch the numbers in here and you should find faster at the muzzle means little at 30 yards plus....which is were it counts....

http://www.ctmuzzleloaders.com/ctml_...otgunning.html

You boys would shudder if you looked in my ammo cabinet.

I bet I got some of that magnum stuff some where on the shelves....charlie