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Nick de Guerre 04-09-2019 07:51 AM

Bill,

No, not me. I am a member of LACA but not involved in any way. Im just a guy who found the best way to learn was to start writing stuff down, listening to older guys, etc.

NDG

Nick de Guerre 04-09-2019 09:53 AM

Further on Bob's E grade...it really is quite rare. Other collectors are pretty coy about the topic when asked...I will assert that for end ejector guns are few and far between. The in-frame design was clearly much better, and rightfully became the standard ejector after it's introduction straight on through to the end of the company.

Off the top of my head I can't even recall seeing an E grade so equipped. In that era E's were not the mid-grade gun they eventually became, so it's surprising that an E would have had them, given the price.

Some of the finest Lefever's ever made were produced in the same time frame as your gun, and several are equipped with forend ejectors. The Benjamin Harrison gun which sold a couple years back was so equipped. And others have what I can only guess are experimental features, owing to additional screws whose purpose I don't know. The "Kimball" gun is one...there is a picture of it in Elliott's 2nd book. I wish the guy who owns it would show more pictures, but he never has, that I have seen. He was registered on the old Lefever forum but rarely said anything, and has not joined the new forum as far as I know.

NDG

Bob Brown 04-09-2019 03:12 PM

Thanks for the info, Nick. I'll just mention a few things here and then make new thread with photos. The hook in hook joint is pretty cool, if a bit complicated. In fact, I just figured out how to get the barrels off. Compared to the rest of mySxSs she's a pretty heavy gun. and very nose heavy. 9 lbs 10 oz, and the barrels are 5 lb 5 oz of it. Reminded me of when I picked up a double rifle thinking it was a 20 gauge. Anyway, I'll take some pics and post them in case anyone is interested.

Brian Dudley 04-09-2019 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick de Guerre (Post 271119)
Some of the finest Lefever's ever made were produced in the same time frame as your gun, and several are equipped with forend ejectors. The Benjamin Harrison gun which sold a couple years back was so equipped. And others have what I can only guess are experimental features, owing to additional screws whose purpose I don't know. The "Kimball" gun is one...there is a picture of it in Elliott's 2nd book. I wish the guy who owns it would show more pictures, but he never has, that I have seen. He was registered on the old Lefever forum but rarely said anything, and has not joined the new forum as far as I know.

NDG

Nick,

The Harrison Optimus was NOT an ejector gun. It was an extractor cocking-rod type action.

The two screws on the top side of the forend irons on guns of this era are for adjusting the contact point on the cocking rods.

Nick de Guerre 04-09-2019 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Dudley (Post 271148)
Nick,

The Harrison Optimus was NOT an ejector gun. It was an extractor cocking-rod type action.

The two screws on the top side of the forend irons on guns of this era are for adjusting the contact point on the cocking rods.


Brian,

You are correct as to the gun...I have my Presidents confused. It was not the Harrison gun, but the Grover Cleveland gun (also in Elliott's book) which I was thinking of. The Harrison gun is indeed a rod cocker.

The screws we're discussing are not on the forend iron, but in the sides of the forearm wood.

NDG

Gerald McPherson 04-11-2019 01:08 PM

Does anyone know where a parts diagram can be found for this Lefever. There is a tiny little spring thing broken and I don't know what is is called. Gerald


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