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Robin Lewis 01-20-2018 07:28 PM

In the Grades page, the repro documents have this to say about the SS, note it states the chokes designed for steel shot are not the same as the standard chokes in an effort to give best pattern with steel shot, whatever that means?

http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture...&pictureid=977

And this has the Repro choke listed for what I assume is the standard chokes:

http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture...&pictureid=979

Scot Cardillo 01-21-2018 09:15 AM

It would be interesting to know what the chokes in a 28" non SSS 12ga look like. (IC/MOD geometry)

Anybody?

Bill Murphy 01-21-2018 10:05 AM

I am in the middle of a move, but I will measure the chokes on the outrageous 28" IC and MOD 12 gauge that Scot sold me a while back, when I find it.

Tim Thomas 01-21-2018 10:50 AM

The 28" IC/MOD 2 3/4" and 3" marked barrels of my 2 barrel set measure .734 bore in both barrels, from 3 1/2 to 2" from muzzle taper .002" and total constriction is .008 and .012. 26" barrels are Q1/Q2 and marked for 2 3/4". Not a SSS serial number.

Bill Murphy 01-21-2018 05:36 PM

Thanks.

John Allen 01-21-2018 09:04 PM

I helped design the steel shot special when I worked for Jaegers.The chokes are slightly longer than the standard guns.We found that the longer chokes patterned steel shot more evenly.All of the testing was done with 3" 15/8 oz.steel #2 shot.One key thing we found out was that up to .020" constriction there was little or no stress on the barrel.There was enough compression in the load to pass through the choke without damage to the barrel. As you pass .020"constriction the chance of damage to the barrel increases exponentially.Also,the patterns get ragged after .020".

Scot Cardillo 01-21-2018 09:08 PM

We're lucky to have you as a member, John. Thank you for sharing.

John Allen 01-21-2018 09:25 PM

As for the barrels not being chromed in the choke area,we specifically asked for the SS guns to be chromes throughout.At the time the steel loads were not as well designed as now.We were afraid that continual use of steel shot would wear out the chokes.It added a step to the barrel making process,but it was important at the time because no one really knew what steel shot would do over time.The standard barrels were not chromed because they were initially all full choked and were final choked late in the process depending on the need.

Dave Tatman 01-21-2018 09:53 PM

John, I continually marvel at the scope and extent of your knowledge on all things Parker, and truly, all thing related to firearms. You are a credit to the industry, and a true friend of all of us collectors.

Thanks for being willing to share your experiences and knowledge on this Forum, my friend. I look forward to our next shoot in Nashville.

Dave

Gary Laudermilch 01-23-2018 08:17 AM

For those interested in a Steel Shot Special at a more reasonable price see Cabelas Gun Library - Winchester Parker Repro 12 ga. Reference #: 6780180


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