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Bill Murphy 07-30-2016 01:18 PM

I will submit to the Double Gun Journal if I get my provenance in order. I was very satisfied with the Cote treatment of my first Sousa article about his Prussian Daly Diamond Grade Sextuple Trap. Unfortunately, they refused to publish my article on Sousa's Remington Model 10-F because it was a pump gun. The Remington Society of America Journal published the 10-F article and it was a wonderful presentation. If someone will tell me who owns the Sousa AAHE, I will be glad to prepare an article for the Parker Pages.

Dean Romig 07-30-2016 01:23 PM

Okay guys... somebody fess up.





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Daniel Carter 07-30-2016 05:04 PM

Is the S N of this gun known?

Bill Murphy 07-31-2016 10:52 AM

Yes.

Bill Murphy 08-08-2021 07:15 PM

I think the serial number of the Parker is in the Parker records and probably in the Alderfer auction catalog. Kevin and I were both at the Alderfer sale where the AAH Parker was sold. Kevin and I were also at the sale where the other two Sousa guns were sold but we had no idea they were Sousa guns. A little later, the same house sold the double barrel Daly Diamond Grade pigeon gun that is also connected to Sousa ownership. I had no idea at the time that the Daly double pigeon gun had Sousa connections. I bought it because it was a great gun. I still own the Daly pigeon gun as well as the other two I wrote articles about.

Bill Murphy 08-09-2021 09:53 AM

Al Houde, back to the Purdey. In my file of Parker records there is an order copy for a request by William Wagner to reblack the barrels on an unnumbered Purdey. It is the only example I have seen in tens of thousands of Parker records of them working on a gun that is not a Parker. Since Sousa ordered several Parkers through the William Wagner establishment and was a bit of a VIP at Parker Brothers, I suspect that the Purdey sent to Parker Brothers for barrel blacking was Sousa's gun. Too bad no serial numbers.

Drew Hause 08-09-2021 04:25 PM

Philadelphia Ledger March 1915. Looks to be his Smith

https://photos.smugmug.com/Trap-Skee...%20Copy-X2.jpg

Drew Hause 08-09-2021 04:26 PM

His AAH

https://photos.smugmug.com/Trap-Skee...%282%29-XL.jpg

Definitely a boxlock and likely his Prussian Daly double

https://photos.smugmug.com/Trap-Skee...shooting-M.jpg

Garry L Gordon 10-08-2021 11:05 AM

A great thread -- thanks to those who contributed.

I recently heard a story from a reliable source that Sousa asked Fred Gilbert for shooting lessons. Any of you trap historians know of this? Is it "old hat" or something that's become part of Gilbert family lore?

I have a former colleague, a DMA whose dissertation was on Sousa, that I've been trying to contact recently. We used to discuss the Sousa grade Ithacas. (Believe me, there were not too many discussions of shotguns going on in the academic hallways at that time.)

I'm now looking for the Murphy/Breeden article and other good suggestions from this thread. Thanks again. I enjoy learning from all of you.

Bill Murphy 10-10-2021 05:56 AM

I would like to think the gun in Drews post was Sousa's Purdey, but the long receiver makes it look more like his A-2 Smith. Garry, the Double Gun Journal, Summer 2013, had my and Tom Breeden's article about Sousa's Lindner Daly Sextuple, with many pictures. Our article about his Remington 10F is in a Remington Society Journal around the same time, also with many pictures.


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