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Saying that there may be some Grade-8 Parkers that would compare favorably with the Invincibles in no way detracts from the "finest Parkers ever made" but would elevate the quality of the artistry and craftsmanship of such a Grade-8 to that of the Grade-9, Invincible.

I always thought it odd that the way Henry Lymans initial were engraved didn't appear to be of very high quality. Any comments on that?

Shelly Gitman was a very private person regarding his Parkers. Those who knew that he owned the two Invincibles and how he got them agreed in their own minds to keep his story under wraps until his death. Shelly never asked anyone to keep quiet, but he only shared his secrets with those he trusted to be gentlemen. He must have been a good judge of character, because none of this information made it into print until today. Now that Shelly is gone, someone may tell his story and the stories of the Invincibles.

Threads like this are the reason I became a life member. I could read this stuff all day. Thanks to all the previous posters for the fascinating info.

This not-in-the-best-focus shot shows Shelly on the left holding Invincible #200000 and myself on the right holding the Middleton gun, SN 230329 after the photo shoot at Del Grego's.

Kevin, what time frame did Shelly own these guns?

Chuck, I first met Shelly shooting bunker (Olympic Trap) in 1990. At that time he had owned them for several years. Come see me next weekend at the Old Baltimore Show and I'll share lots more with you.

In my opinion, Kevin should hold the information on my friend Shelly Gitman until he has compiled a proper work on this history. Shelly Gitman is not the beginning of the Invincible story. Kevin and others will bring this to the surface when the time is right.

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Originally Posted by Allan H. Swanson (Post 162106)

Bill :

I do not know if this will help, but upon the death of Austin Hogan , Pam Hogan gave me two pictures of Invincible S/N 230329 that Dietrich Apel had given Austin. There was a note attached to the back of the photos that stated that this Invincible was purchased by a person named George Ford from Paul Jaeger in Jenkintown, PA.

After the purchase Mr. Ford found out the value of the gun and purchased Christmas presents for both Dietrich and Paul . A comprehensive story was written by Austin and appeared in the PGCA Journal vol. 15 spring 2008.

Allan

Gary Herman bought it from Mrs. Ford

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Originally Posted by Dave Noreen (Post 162108)

The story of Invincible 230329 was written up by Dick Baldwin in the May 1971 issue of Guns & Ammo. I first saw that gun when it was displayed, I think by Gary Herman, at the 1970 NRA convention.

I just got a copy of the Guns & Ammo, on ebay, and gave it to a special PGCA member.
Not everything in this thread is quite correct.
Chuck, check your in-box.

Edgar, no current story about the Invincibles will be agreed on by all parties. You and I have had discussions about this before and came away not quite agreeing. However, when the whole story is told, maybe we will all be in agreement.