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Chuck Bishop 10-17-2013 03:34 PM

Here's a freebie, the order book states it's a Grade 2 with 30" Damascus barrels however the book doesn't say what the chokes were and the stock book is missing. I doubt that the gun was cyl & cyl when it left the factory or it would have been specified in the order book. Most of those guns were full and full unless specified.

Dean Freeman 10-17-2013 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erick Dorr (Post 118197)
Another tip-off that this is a D2 grade the description of the engraving featuring birds. The auction house must of necessity use more than one person to grade this many guns. If their description is wrong as it is in this case they do not hold you to the contract. Poulins are good people. They also have an obligation to the consignor.
Look closely before you bid no one can assume your responsibility to verify for yourself.
Actually Gs described as Ds is not uncommon. I think it stems from the D on the barrel flats of most parkers having Damascus.
My notes indicate that this gun is "slightly loose." I don't remember if this is with the fore end on or off.

PS Inaccurate descriptions can be both bad or good if you are observant. Ex. One gun was described as having cut barrels but they looked righteous and are.
Erick

Erick, if you've already handled this gun and it was "slightly loose" i'm assuming that it will be best for me to move on. I'll probably do just that unless you can convince me otherwise. I'm bad for taking in strays, this one may just have to find another home.

Erick Dorr 10-17-2013 10:13 PM

Dean,
I wouldn't attempt to convince you one way or the other. Ask Poulin if there is any looseness either with the fore end on or off. I just can't remember all that well. This lot and the next both looked interesting mostly because I don't own a top lever hammer gun. Hopefully you can get some close-up photos sent to you and listen to your heart or ...

Gary Carmichael Sr 10-18-2013 08:55 AM

Dean, The gun looks like it has sculptured bolsters, sure sign of a early grade 2, Gary

Dean Freeman 10-18-2013 12:55 PM

Ok, so here is a quote from the nice gentleman at the auction house. He has sent me pics, and has inspected the gun for movement. Here is a bit of his report... "Nice overall appearance. Action is very tight with forearm, with a slight wiggle without forearm".

A slight wiggle without forearm... I'm no gunsmith, but this sounds like the gun may be off face. Is this a plausible assumption? I'd love to hear what you guys think. Photos are forthcoming!!

http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture...pictureid=5385

http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture...pictureid=5382

http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture...pictureid=5384

http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture...pictureid=5383

And now for the reason I'm in this mess...

http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture...pictureid=5386

Dean Romig 10-18-2013 01:05 PM

In my own opinion a "slight wiggle without forearm" is not really a concern as long as it is tight with no wiggle with forearm in place. Having this "slight wiggle" is not considered to be an indication that a Parker is "off face".

Dean Freeman 10-18-2013 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean Romig (Post 118286)
In my own opinion a "slight wiggle without forearm" is not really a concern as long as it is tight with no wiggle with forearm in place. Having this "slight wiggle" is not considered to be an indication that a Parker is "off face".

Ok, So there are the pics I've been sent so far. I've requested pics of the barrels, dents, flats and watertable. Hopefully we will get our eyes full. She looks great but i'm worried about the wiggle.

Dean, the gentleman said that the gun was tight with fore-end on. Aside from that, I'm pretty happy so far.

I'd like to get ideas on value if anyone cares to ballpark it. I'm not looking for quotes, just want to know if it is safe to go ahead with the sale. My total investment will be $1055 plus shipping from ME to VA. I'd love to hear any input you guys would like to share.

By the way, it should be noted that the auction house has been nothing but helpful during this whole deal. I would not hesitate to utilize them in the future.

D.F.

Dean Romig 10-18-2013 01:21 PM

The value of a lower grade Parker is generally determined by the price someone will pay for it. In your case, I think you are getting a good value for your dollar.

Mills Morrison 10-18-2013 01:22 PM

One comment, the wood on the stock looks great which is often not the case for Parker hammer guns. At least in my experience. That should be a plus in weighing your decision

Dean Romig 10-18-2013 01:25 PM

I just took a look at your pictures.... Nice Gun!!!

The checkering may have been recut but that's not an issue. If it was recut it is a very nice job.

I think she's a real keeper!!


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