Your right. 10's are the most fun. I shoot short 10 RST 1/1/4 oz 7.5 loads at ZZTrap once in a while with my d grade #6 frame guns (hammerless and hammer) and though the loads are pretty slow they bust the plastic real well. 41/4 drams of black powder (Track of the Wolfe CNC machined brass cases)with about 1 1/4 oz of lead (or bismuth)are really deadly on ducks and geese (and a real crowd pleaser). 3 1/2 " 1 3/8 oz of steel in my D grade #3 frame are the deadliest. You can easily kill a mallard, goose or driven pheasant at 70 yards if you can reconcile the lead you have to give them. The 3.5" gun does kick. I can't do 1 5/8 oz anymore although I just put an ISIS pad on it for the coming duck season so we'll see.
By the way a great way to clean a lot of the soot out of your black powder barrels after a days shelling is to shoot a couple of final smokeless loads through them. It doesn't take nearly as much soap and water after that.

My Grade 3 10 gauge lifter factory letter states that my gun will put 480 #8 pellets in a 24" circle at 45 yards! Havn't verified that on paper yet but it kills or breaks everything I point at! I regularly break 25 straight on the skeet course with this gun by using Gauge Mate 12 gauge inserts. I can shoot off the shelf 1 1/8 oz loads with no problem. I probably have well over 3000 rounds thru this gun and it is still tight as a tick.

Cheers!:)

Yes, I do Scott Excellent

FINALLY I did it! Today, the second day of the 2017 Iowa goose season I got a double on geese with my EH short ten. It wasn't the prettiest pair in the air ever shot with a Parker but it was a true pair and a great way to start the season. Now if I can relearn how to post a iPhone picture.

Looks like there are quite a few short 10 "users." I am also one. I have a GH Parker, a 3 grade Hammer Parker (currently at Brad Bacheldor's), an Ithaca Hammer 10, and a W.C. Scott hammer gun in the short ten. Great fall turkey guns, and they'll reach out for high squirrels, too. I shoot the lightest loads from RST and have started setting up to reload my own.

Count me in too. Just setting up my re-loader today

count me in too...i have been shooting the short ten for over 50 years they are in my opinion the best guns out there....charlie

$150 grade early lifter, English W. Richards hammer, jones underlever, 34” damascus

I just the thread again and realized( or maybe missed it ) I have not added my GH grade 2 frame with 28 inch bbls, gun weighs 7 1/4 lbs... I also picked up a 32 inch Greener that weighs in at around 11 lbs ,the Parker is a 10 you could carry all day !

boy that is a light 10 ga...charlie