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Paul Harm 07-21-2016 01:55 PM

I've been doing that for awhile. Funny what we'll do to make those 10ga shells last a little longer.

William Davis 07-28-2016 04:13 PM

Carvel

What powder are you using in the 2 inch 10s.

William

Carvel Whaley 07-28-2016 04:55 PM

Short 10
 
William, same as I use in the 2 7/8 in., 20.6 gr green dot. Very pleasant load.
Carvel

charlie cleveland 07-28-2016 10:36 PM

fine load...charlie

William Davis 07-29-2016 06:45 AM

Carvel I have been cronographing some of my loads, 16 G this weekend. Am going to run some of my 10s next , 2 7/8 inch 1 1/8 oz & 1 1/4 oz. all with the SP 10 wad & 22.5 Green Dot. Like yours all fine shooters. Like to see how they clock. I bet I could back off on the 1 1/8 oz charge.

William

CraigThompson 07-30-2016 03:14 PM

I just backed into an unopened 8 pounder of Unique . When my Sr7625 runs out this'll get used in the 10 and 16 guns ! I suppose I'll also finally delve into the world of roll crimping .

Paul Harm 08-25-2016 10:28 AM

A friend keeps giving me 10ga hulls he picks up from a public shooting range. I've got about 300 loaded up, so I started loading some with black powder. Loaded some with 75grs of 3F, some with 82grs of 2F, and then I found a can of 1F that I used 25 years ago for a 8ga O/U muzzleloader I use to use for goose hunting. I loaded some with 89grs of that, all 1oz of shot. I have 55 of the BP shells and better go out and shoot some on the SC's course to see how they do before I load anymore.

Jack Pesci 09-04-2016 09:04 PM

I am really a newbie when it comes to this forum so could someone please tell me where in this post I can find the PDF that is mentioned?

Thanks,
Jack

Rick Losey 09-04-2016 09:08 PM

Jack

its the sticky on this reloading forum

http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?t=11403

Jack Pesci 09-04-2016 09:35 PM

Thanks, I found it!

Paul Harm 09-05-2016 09:01 AM

Welcome Jack - good to hear from you.

Paul Wallpe 09-14-2016 06:54 PM

Alternate powders
 
Since PB, 4756, and 7625 are no longer around, but most of the data in the manuals and spread sheet lists them (basically outdated), has anyone found load data for other powders?

Paul Harm 09-15-2016 03:38 PM

I use 21grs/Green Dot with 1 1/16oz of shot. The book shows 29 with 1 1/4oz, so I'm pretty sure I'm plenty safe. Many of the loads are out dated, but there is still many loads with available powders. You'll just have to make do, or as many of us do - use a 12ga load of moderate pressure - it will most certainly be safe in a 10ga [ larger chamber = less pressure ]. Good luck.

Timothy Laycock 10-12-2016 05:35 PM

Seeking....
 
This is obviously a very old thread, however I am new to the site--- I am looking for information on 2 7/8" 10 ga loads. I hope to find loads for 1 1/2, 1 5/8 oz somewhere. There was a PDF supposedly posted here- but I see no attachments anywhere. Any help anyone can provide pointing me in the right direction to find information is greatly appreciated.

Rick Losey 10-12-2016 06:20 PM

Tim.

Peters spread sheet is in be sticky at the top of this reloading forum

Timothy Laycock 10-13-2016 09:58 AM

Pardon me-- but WHERE are any stickies? Where is the PDF?? There is noting showing up on my computer , there is no spreadsheet. Please advise.

Jack Pesci 10-13-2016 10:30 AM

Short ten's reloading
 
I had trouble finding this attachment as well. You must go to the top of the forum ( 2 7/8" 10 ga. Reloading Data) and click on the paper clip symbol on the right side of that title. Good luck.

Fred Verry 10-13-2016 10:37 AM

Spreadsheet
 
Tim, go to PGCA forums then Non-Parker Specific and General Discussions then Shotshell reloading and it will be the first sticky post. HTH FV

Chip Beckford 08-21-2017 06:34 PM

Hello , for some reason I can't get this to print/ Could someone send it to me?

Thanks ,

chip Beckford BeckfordMurray@gmail.com

Harding nicholson 01-19-2019 08:30 PM

I would like to download this data but am unable to see the link

Dean Romig 01-19-2019 09:12 PM

This is the link Pete originally posted for us...

http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/shotgun





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Pete Lester 04-16-2019 11:32 AM

1 Attachment(s)
It's been awhile since I posted an updated Short Ten reloading spreadsheet. This one has been updated through Feb 2019. It includes loads PGCA members have had tested by Tom Armbrust and the new 2 7/8" 10ga data from Hodgdon. Please remember some of this data is very dated, some components including powder are no longer available on the shelf. Additionally some of these loads look very "hot" and I would not use them in any vintage gun especially one with composite barrels. Enjoy and use at your own risk.

Jack Pesci 04-17-2019 10:32 AM

Sorry, but I am at a loss in finding the attached, updated, pdf for the 10 ga. short shell data.
Please help me.

Dean Romig 04-17-2019 10:37 AM

When you click on Pete's PDF it should download right to your download file.





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Paul Harm 04-17-2019 02:57 PM

Jack, you coming to my shoot on May 11th ?

Milt Fitterman 04-17-2019 06:37 PM

Jack, when I click on it, it shows at the bottom left of the screen. I have done this enough that it does not fool me when this happens. Most of the time files just open on the screen but certain ones don't. Once you find it you just click on it and it opens..

Patrick Barrett 11-07-2019 02:42 AM

Hello: I looked for you attachment and do not see it ;could you please help??I too am looking for the 2 5/8 10 ga information. I am thinking of using the light 12 red dot data for the 10 ga, Rem 1894 I have. Can I use the same wads-cards for the 10 ga you mention?

thank you,
Pat

Paul Harm 11-07-2019 09:16 AM

Yes, you'll be safe. It's what I use in my 1882 Remington 10ga with 2 5/8 shells. I believe your Remington has 2 3/4" chambers. I've never found one with 2 5/8 chambers. I only use the 2 5/8 shells because I had cut 2 5/8 shells for a different gun and it's what I have.

Jack Pesci 11-07-2019 11:07 AM

10 ga. short shell loads
 
1 Attachment(s)
I hope this works, if not send me your email and I will email it to you via attachment.

Jack

Patrick Barrett 11-07-2019 11:10 AM

I have it now. Thank you!
Pat

Patrick Barrett 11-07-2019 11:11 AM

Thanks Paul.

Pat

Patrick Barrett 11-07-2019 05:50 PM

10 Chamber size 2 5/8
 
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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Harm (Post 284793)
Yes, you'll be safe. It's what I use in my 1882 Remington 10ga with 2 5/8 shells. I believe your Remington has 2 3/4" chambers. I've never found one with 2 5/8 chambers. I only use the 2 5/8 shells because I had cut 2 5/8 shells for a different gun and it's what I have.

I asked G&H to verify the chamber size of 2 5/8. They sent me 2 pictures that I have tried to attach here. I am not too good with computers but here goes.
thank you
Pat

charlie cleveland 11-07-2019 05:52 PM

also if you have some hulls that a 209 primer is to big for the primer hole these hulls use the no 57 primer which is smaller than a 209 primer....old remington paper and plastic hulls used the no 57 primer.....i still reload a few old hulls useing the 57 primer....charlie

Bill Murphy 11-08-2019 06:35 AM

Are #57 primers still made?

Daniel Carter 11-08-2019 07:44 AM

Found this on a reloading forum and it works. Take a SPENT 209 primer and insert it into the 57 opening using your normal press and procedure. Take it out and a new 209 will now fit. I have a case of 16 ga. early Remington plastic cases, no shot collar and fiber wads that I have been reloading this way. Have also done Remington paper 28 ga.

charlie cleveland 11-08-2019 04:21 PM

i ll have to try your method on these primers...bill i know of no one selling new no 57 primers...charlie

Cory Rams 03-11-2021 08:41 AM

Thanks for all the obsolete, impossible to find, load data! I just picked up a lee loader in 2 7/8” and 3.5” . I am trying to find the heaviest “safe” loads possible for my Damascus Charles daly 1873 SxS for turkey hunting. I ordered some BPI nickel plated #6’s and have some chilled #5’s. I have a few RST empty cases laying around. I bought 2 boxes of #5 RST 1 1/4oz which didn’t pattern as good as I would have liked. I also bought a box of #6 RST which I haven’t tried yet. I was given sone various plastic wads to try and have some cushion wads and cardboard shot cards coming. I have 700x, red dot, green dot, unique, FG, FFG, and FFFG powders. What is the max PSI for Damascus barrels? I thought it was around 6,000 and I see loads listed up to 10,000 on the 4 page load table. I would like to load the heaviest load possible. I see the heaviest listed is 1 5/8 oz. any load recipes for 10 gauge RST casing with a 1 5/8oz load? Cant wait! Has anyone ever tried duplex loads? I was thinking of half #5’s and #6’s .

Pete Lester 03-11-2021 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cory Rams (Post 328506)
Thanks for all the obsolete, impossible to find, load data! I just picked up a lee loader in 2 7/8” and 3.5” . I am trying to find the heaviest “safe” loads possible for my Damascus Charles daly 1873 SxS for turkey hunting. I ordered some BPI nickel plated #6’s and have some chilled #5’s. I have a few RST empty cases laying around. I bought 2 boxes of #5 RST 1 1/4oz which didn’t pattern as good as I would have liked. I also bought a box of #6 RST which I haven’t tried yet. I was given sone various plastic wads to try and have some cushion wads and cardboard shot cards coming. I have 700x, red dot, green dot, unique, FG, FFG, and FFFG powders. What is the max PSI for Damascus barrels? I thought it was around 6,000 and I see loads listed up to 10,000 on the 4 page load table. I would like to load the heaviest load possible. I see the heaviest listed is 1 5/8 oz. any load recipes for 10 gauge RST casing with a 1 5/8oz load? Cant wait! Has anyone ever tried duplex loads? I was thinking of half #5’s and #6’s .

Given your sarcasm for my effort some years ago in gathering all the historical data I could find for loading the short ten all I will say at this point is good luck.

Rick Losey 03-11-2021 12:01 PM

Peter - the rest of us appreciate your efforts

as for the max pressure question - scientifically - I think its just a few PSI under where your barrels blow out - let us know

Cory Rams 03-11-2021 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete Lester (Post 328510)
Given your sarcasm for my effort some years ago in gathering all the historical data I could find for loading the short ten all I will say at this point is good luck.

There was zero sarcasm meant by my post. I was honestly excited to see all the load data! As for PSI....I meant pressure. I see 6,000 to 10,000 pressures listed( I called it PSI). I was asking if all of these listed loads were safe for Damascus barrels. I cannot find any load books listing Damascus load pressures. From other readings I was under the impression that 6000 was the max load pressure in Damascus 10 gauge barrels. I’ve been reloading and casting for over 20 years but have never loaded shotgun shells.


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