The British have a 3" 10 gauge with a maximum working pressure of 3 1/2 tonnes or roughly 10500 PSI.

All but very late and rare 3 1/2" magnum Parkers we either 2 7/8" or 2 5/8" found in early guns. It is always best to measure the chamber length.

Post a picture please.

Attachment 10184 I'll get some more today thought I had a better one. ch

Thank You

I don't believe that is true for the 10ga. All chambers I have measured have been 2 7/8" and square shoulders.

put a sheet rock screw in the center bottom of dowel and you can fine tune the cut by screwing in or out from 2 5/8ths 10 ga to 2 7/8ths 10 ga

Scott is right, the screw is must, it allows one to quickly adjust the depth for various hulls, new Federal vs. old Federal, Remmington, Winchester etc. They are all different and the cutter must be adjusted to hit the same desired length with each hull type.

Sorry Nathan I didn't get the screw picture on yesterday I left my camera at my sisters house pictures. I'ts on the top on my list today. ch

TEN GA SHELL LENGTH
 

The photo shows two unfired, paper 10 ga shells, one a UMC, the other a USCC. Both measure slightly less than 2 7/8 inch overall length. I also have some brass ten ga of similar vintage that measure 2 5/8 overall length. The 2 5/8 brass and 2 7/8 paper cases have the same capacity.

Best, Austin

Attachment 10186

Attachment 10187Here's a couple of poor pictures but u get the idea.

Case Cutting
 

If I were trying to imitated shooting a brand new shell in a brand new Parker, I would set the blade at 2 13/16 inch. That allows +/- 1/16 tolerance.

Best, Austin

Thanks a lot, thats better the the dremal tool.

Thats a good idea Austin. I think I made mine a shade short but I will check. ch

count me in.

Count me in with a #3 frame DH with Titanic steel barrels

Short Ten DH with Titanic Steel barrels!!!

Show me, show me, show me... please?

Mark

I rotate my #3 frame 30" 10 gauge Titanic barrels between my NH gun and my BH gun. They fit better on the NH gun, but they're so neat on the BH.

I geuss you can count me in as well...it's not a Parker though,and it's on the bench waiting it's turn at restoration,it's a Ithaca N.I.D...she's seen better day's ,but should be up and running by winter.

the short ten will always be my favorite..in my youth i was in aweof the mighty ten and i guess i still am... i shoot the ten ga quite often it makes a fine gun for every thing from deer turkey quail duck to squirl to every thing in between...if you aint got one you dont know what your missing..... charlie

another short ten
 

I loved my first ten so much I bought another one. I have shot pheasants and clays with the first one and plan to shoot ducks with it in Louisiana this season. I am shooting #96343 short ten top lifter hammer gun. It is a D grade and appears in the Parker story many times since it formerly belonged to one of the authors. It is choked full and extra full with 28" bbls. I just purchased a grade 2 underlifter 10 with great metal but a butt stock broken at the wrist. Jim Kelly is doing a repair to make it a good shooter for clays. It has 30" bbls choked cyl/cyl.

1889 32" NH

Nice gun and gobbler.

Almost half a year since the last post, any new 10 bore owners/shooters since then?

My 10 bore Tolley
 

JOnes Lever, 10 1/4 lbs,choked full and full,32 inch Damascus 3 bar bbls,
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At the risk of being excommunicated from this august forum I'll confess to having received a "new" 10 bore yesterday. It's a William Moore of London made no later than '75. Jones underlever, laminated barrels, and forend wedge. Plain gun but in very high original. condition. Weighs 8/14.

Leighton, thats a serious 10 bore you have there.


William Moore, circa ? to 1875
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nothing like a ten bore...fellows them are some nice tens even if they are forign made .... that long barrel ten would make a fineturkey getter and the short one a good crow gun...i can see the parker is already a turkey getter nice gun and a beautiful long beard... charlie ps just kiddin bout the forign made i also have a old hammer claybrough abd sons 10 ga...

New Tenners
 

I got two.

I have a 10 hammer underlifter #10227- basically unfired- was owned by a Parker EE - a caster. I have never fired it but bought some RSTs from Morris so soo I will.

the second is a damascus PH grade 55861- very early hammerless. i alway thought it was a 12 but never fired it. well 2 weeks ago I dropped a 12 ga shell in it and the chamber swallowed it. we put in a short ten and fired it in a vise. no problem.
Mark Conrad's letter confirms it- it was sent back to the factory and bored out to a 10 guage with 2 and 5/8 chambers. Mark said he has never seen such a thing.
I think it will be my new skeet gun.

That is neat and explains at least one 2 frame (assuming it is a 2 frame) 10ga Grade 1 Twist. Can you scan and post the letter? Have you had the barrels walls measured, be interesting to know the thickness after the factory modification.

What is the minimum wall thickness on your 12-10 gauge convertible?

Letters at:
1891 CH No. 2 frame, 26" 10ga cyl & cyl

I like shooting these guns. They are easy to reload for and as I have a number of "short tens" I shoot them for waterfowl and the occasional spring gobbler- a 32" #3 frame D2 Parker toplever hammer (that also has a set of 32" Belgian made steel 3 1/2" barrels), a 30" #3 frame PT toplever hammer, a 36" D2 #3 frame GH and a rather nice Lindner Daly A&D action with 30" Damascus barrels and 32" 3" 12g and 32" 3 1/2" 10g fluid steel barrels added by ARMAF the same Liege firm that added the magnum barrels to the D2 Parker. (see below)

12-10 convertible
 

I have no way to measure as I have no guages.
i do know that the BBLS were shortened at some time as well.

George if you can find a smith who has and knows how to properly use a wall thickness gauge it would be most interesting to know how your gun measures. You have a most unique Parker 10 bore.

For reference on Dean's query, I have a nice set of #2 frame D3 barrels #56815 that I just measured with the following dimensions- 32", 5-13 unstruck weight, 5lb 4 oz currently. WT@ at chamber end (2 7/8") is .120", WT at 12" from breech is .075 and the MWT (in a quick measure) is .060. The bores are both .790. These were with Russ Bickel at the time of his death to be added to my D3 32" #2 frame 20 gauge #186822...got to find another 'smith to do that job. I am going to miss Russ and his Moldmender micro wonder welding for tightening and barrel fitting.

don you certainly have some very interesting 10 ga s ...i really like the sound of those 36 inch barrels...appreciate the telling about them and the pictures.... charlie

12-10 convertible #55861
 

Pete- here is the letter. I just learned to attach stuff so hopefully it works.

The barrels are now 25 or 26 inches long so 2 or 3 inches were removed. Front sight is nicely in place so it looks like a professional (Parker?) job.
wouldnt some of the barrels HAVE to be removed to go from 12 gauge to 10 gauge?

Thanks for sharing. The gun is a Grade 2, a GH rather than a Grade 1 or PH as stated earlier, (Dam vs. Twist). It would still be interesting to learn of the bore ID and barrel wall thickness after the rechambering to 10ga. Two dollars went a long way back then! I wonder if the gun was severely pitted and rather than overbore a 12 they made it a 10???

Pete
My bad on the grade. I have called it a PH ever since DelGrego called it a PH 12 in 1991[I can show you the letter!!]. The receiver is so dark with corrosion the engraving is hard to make out.
It is a 2 frame. Damascus markings. Can't see any patterns at all.
Now that i have learned, I will post some photos.

anyone have a 10g 2 7/8 recipe for black powder or pyrodex rs etc?wad load charge etc?thaks everyone!

Sherman Bell provided recipes and data for two BP loads in his work. You can find those and a bunch of smokeless loads for the 2 7/8" 10ga here, reference my post of 5/3/12 for the most current spreadsheet. Both BP loads used FFFg and are on page 3 of 3 of the spreadsheet. You probably can't mess up a BP load in the 10 except to undercharge it.

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