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CraigThompson 11-27-2021 07:27 PM

Are the barrels interchangeable between the regular model 11 and the Sportsman version ?

Will Gurton 11-27-2021 08:03 PM

Craig,

I believe they are but I am no Sportsmen expert.

Be careful with low serial number barrels as they we mostly fitted at the factory.

I don't believe you can go wrong with one of the later barrels that has the milling on the grey extension to save weight.

Will

CraigThompson 11-27-2021 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Will Gurton (Post 348942)
Craig,

I believe they are but I am no Sportsmen expert.

Be careful with low serial number barrels as they we mostly fitted at the factory.

I don't believe you can go wrong with one of the later barrels that has the milling on the grey extension to save weight.

Will

I have a 20 gauge Sportsman and bought a 20 gauge 11 last night. When the one I bought last night arrives I’ll see if the barrels interchange .

Bruce Hering 11-28-2021 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CraigThompson (Post 348944)
I have a 20 gauge Sportsman and bought a 20 gauge 11 last night. When the one I bought last night arrives I’ll see if the barrels interchange .

Craig: I may be wrong here but, I think the barrel loop that fits over the mag tube is in a different location. I am interested to see what you find out.

CraigThompson 12-02-2021 08:54 PM

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The Model 11 20 gauge arrived today . I’m going to take the Sportsman in tommorrow and see if the barrels swap . The new one needs a new spring something to do with the trigger assembly and it’s already ordered from Numrich . Other than this spring deal the gun looks in very decent to good shape .

Dave Noreen 12-02-2021 09:16 PM

Nice looking early 20-gauge.

CraigThompson 12-02-2021 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Noreen (Post 349308)
Nice looking early 20-gauge.

Thanks ! Dave do you have a list of Model 11 serial numbers by year ? I’d like to date this one snd the 16 I have . I assume the 16 is newer as it has the roll stamp like a Sportsman .

Dave Noreen 12-02-2021 09:45 PM

The old factory ledger states that receiver was put in work, along with about 7200 others, between May 3, and June 14, 1930. The code on the barrel PY P = June and Y = 1930.

CraigThompson 12-02-2021 10:48 PM

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Here are both sides the barrel on the model 11 16 . I don’t think they have the letters .

Craig Larter 04-13-2022 01:21 PM

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My latest Remington Auto Shotgun Tournament grade 12ga 28" plain barrel Circa 1910. The chip in the butt plate is repaired.

Stephen Hodges 04-13-2022 02:09 PM

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Craig, beautiful guns for sure! But a discussion of the Model 11 certainly needs an honorable mention of her cousin, the Browning Auto 5:) Here are my two, a 1959 second year light 20 with a 28" Vent Rib Mod barrel, and a 1962 Sweet 16, with a 26" Vent Rib Mod barrel. Both in original condition. The 1962 and older guns were rust blued and had the reddish stocks, both of which I prefer.

Mike Koneski 04-13-2022 02:23 PM

Nice looking gun you have there Craig!

CraigThompson 04-13-2022 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen Hodges (Post 361504)
Craig, beautiful guns for sure! But a discussion of the Model 11 certainly needs an honorable mention of her cousin, the Browning Auto 5:) Here are my two, a 1959 second year light 20 with a 28" Vent Rib Mod barrel, and a 1962 Sweet 16, with a 26" Vent Rib Mod barrel. Both in original condition. The 1962 and older guns were rust blued and had the reddish stocks, both of which I prefer.

I had kinda gotten over the A-5 thing and had pared them down to just a MAG12 . But they started this pre 1960 event at Rock Mountain so I bought some more guns mostly 11’s but two more A-5’s . The standard weight 16 with the funky safety will most likely go down the road but a couple three months ago I picked up a circa 1969 A-5 20 Magnum , I actually like the later flat knob guns a skoosh more . This ones 26” IC .

Mills Morrison 04-13-2022 03:29 PM

I've got an A-5 two barrel set - skeet and full - and that is all I need. It is a 12 gauge.

CraigThompson 04-13-2022 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mills Morrison (Post 361513)
I've got an A-5 two barrel set - skeet and full - and that is all I need. It is a 12 gauge.

Throw a Light 20 or Sweet 16 up some time it feels a bit different . I’ve got three barrels for the 12 Mag although ones a Hastings rifled barrel . But that thing feels like a club compared to the Light 20 or even this 20 Mag . I had a Light 12 with 26” IC barrel that pointed nicely , but I always noticed the slightly heavier feel of the gun .

Bill Murphy 04-14-2022 02:22 PM

Is a Browning automatic with a square knob stock really an A-5? :nono::nono:

Will Gurton 04-14-2022 04:48 PM

A real A-5
 
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Originally Posted by Bill Murphy (Post 361579)
Is a Browning automatic with a square knob stock really an A-5? :nono::nono:

What about this one Bill? Enjoy Will

Stephen Hodges 04-14-2022 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Will Gurton (Post 361586)
What about this one Bill? Enjoy Will

If I ever find a decent straight grip it will be mine:whistle:

CraigThompson 04-14-2022 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Murphy (Post 361579)
Is a Browning automatic with a square knob stock really an A-5? :nono::nono:

If it says made in Belgium I’m okay with it .

Bill Murphy 04-14-2022 07:30 PM

That straight grip is awesome. I don't have one, but I want one.

charlie cleveland 04-14-2022 07:30 PM

I ve only got alight weight 20 ga with 2 barrels a 26 cly and a 28 modified....I don t know if its as nice as these guns showed here but it s close....I do have a barrel 32 inch 12 ga that I plan to reunite to a light weight 12 ga some day......belong to my dad some body stole the gun withs its 26 imp. cly barrel....charlie

Will Gurton 04-14-2022 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Murphy (Post 361603)
That straight grip is awesome. I don't have one, but I want one.

Thanks Bill.

It's 1903 Trap Grade in the 2xxx SN range.

Blessed to able to care for it a while.

Will

Craig Larter 04-15-2022 04:41 PM

Will I still consider myself a learning student when it comes to Remington automatic shotguns. Your Trap is very handsome but why no cheeks on the head of the stock? Also, I was under the impression that 1905 was the first year of production?

Stephen Hodges 04-15-2022 05:02 PM

Craig, I think his gun is a Browning Auto 5, not a Remington Model 11

Craig Larter 04-15-2022 05:55 PM

Thanks Steve, my error, still learning. Craig

Will Gurton 04-15-2022 09:59 PM

1st year FN Browning A5
 
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Originally Posted by Craig Larter (Post 361666)
Will I still consider myself a learning student when it comes to Remington automatic shotguns. Your Trap is very handsome but why no cheeks on the head of the stock? Also, I was under the impression that 1905 was the first year of production?

Sorry Craig,

The conversation got highjacked to Brownings and I followed the current.

Stephen is correct.

The first is an Ad in an Oct. 1903 Western Field and the second (pardon the rotation) is a 1903 FN Browning A5 Catalog photo.

Will


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