The truck that pulled out the van didn’t even get muddy. Easy peasy lemon squeezy!!

Long tow straps come in handy eh. Where's the photographer when you need them.

No photos but we all know Hoosier daddy!!

Great news!! For a lucky youth shooter at this event, an LC Smith has been donated again as a prize!! For every event a youth shooter enters, they will get a ticket into a random draw to win a 12g 30” O-grade choked F-F, made in 1908. Photos to come.

For those who like to play around with the targets, we will be running a "for fun" "Snooker"-"Make a Break"-"Make it Break" on the 5-Stand during the shoot. Looks like the high score will have bragging rights for a year. Also toying with the idea of Super Sporting for giggles too. Maybe add it as a trophy event in 2022?

What a great idea Mike. Sign me up for the MAB.:cool:

Mike for those of us who are not in the know could you tell us about these games?

WAY MORE fun than 5-stand and a quick learning curve if you watch a few shooters. The game is common at NSCA events and there's usually a long queue line. And with more and more shooters into 10 and 8 bores it's ideal for two shooters using the same gauge to have a go against each other and with personal decision space on target strategy.

Here's the usual MAB setup:

Two shooters are positioned on the elevated platform with the left shooter calling for his pair of targets first then followed by the shooter on the right. Each pair of targets always begins with the release of either of the #1 traps. (The target puller/scorer randomly choses one of the #1 traps.) If the shooter misses the #1 target with the first shot, he must use the second shot to break the #1 target. If the shooter breaks the #1 target with the first shot, then the #2 target is released, on the report of his firearm, for him to attempt. If the shooter breaks both targets, he is scored for the sum of the targets, which would be three points (the total of #1 & #2 traps.) Then the shooter on the right attempts the same pair. The shooters continue for the next pair, #1 & #3 and so forth up to #1 & #7 pair. After the #1 & #7 pair, with firearms unloaded, the shooters switch sides on the shooting platform and the shooter with the higher score calls for the first of the four pairs in the bonus rounds. He may choose any trap for his second target. The #1 target is always the first target attempted in the pair. Then the second shooter, calls for his pair of targets. He may choose any trap for his second target also. After each pair in the bonus rounds, the shooter with the higher score calls first. In the case of a tie after each pair, the order remains the same until there is a lead change.

In the four bonus rounds, the #4 & #5 targets can be attempted only once by each shooter. All other targets are unlimited in the bonus rounds. The maximum score for a round of is 65 total points. This requires the shooter to call for the #7 target in all four bonus pairs.

For the sake of safety, all firearms are to remain unloaded until into shooting position on platform and ready to call for the targets. Only two shells are loaded into the firearm at one time. Unload firearms before changing positions for the bonus rounds. Always unload firearm before entering and exiting the shooting platform.

Super Sporting is three traps per station and three pair per station. You’d shoot an A-B, B-C and A-C pairs on each station.

Make-A-Break-

Two shooters are positioned on the elevated platform with the left shooter calling for his targets first then followed by the second shooter. Each pair of targets always begins with the release of either of the #1 traps. If the shooter misses the #1 target with the first shot, he must use the second shot to break the #1 target. If the shooter breaks the #1 target with the first shot, then the #2 target is released, on the report of his firearm, for him to attempt. If the shooter breaks both targets, he is scored for the sum of the targets, which would be three points (The total of #1 & #2 traps.) Then the shooter on the right attempts the same pair. The shooters continue for the next pair, #1 & #3 and so forth up to #1 & #7 pair.
After the #1 & #7 pair, with firearms unloaded, the shooters switch sides on the shooting platform and the shooter with the higher score calls for the first of the four pairs in the bonus rounds. He may choose any trap for his second target. The #1 target is always the first target attempted in the pair. Then the second shooter, calls for his pair of targets. He may choose any trap for his second target also. After each pair in the bonus rounds, the shooter with the higher score calls first. In the case of a tie after each pair, the order remains the same until there is a lead change.
In the four bonus rounds, the #4 & #5 targets can be attempted only once by each shooter. All other targets are unlimited in the bonus rounds.
The maximum score for a round of Make-A-Break is 65 total points. This requires the shooter to call for the #7 target in all four bonus pairs.

Frank and Mike ,thank you, I am in the process of coming up with new games at my club and this is very helpful. The usual loses its shine after awhile and things like this perk interest.

Generally speaking the higher the trap # the higher the degree of difficulty. I have also seen this shot where shooters in the second or bonus rounds can call any combination of traps but you still must break the first trap/bird called for anything to count. Not sure if this is a legit format or just a trappers idea of adding a little fun to the game.

That's pretty much how we play it here. You must break the #1 bird for anything to count. In the bonus round any trap combination can be called.

Daniel, keeping it fresh!! You can always run a flush, flurry or Cordoba too.

Well on a far more seriouse note !

I called Empire Golf Carts an hour ago and made sure my cart was still reserved and paid the bill . Because Confuiciouse say "no golf cart to ride , no see fatboy from Virginia" LOL's !

Since it's a "for fun" event, you can do the bonus rounds either way. 1 and a chosen trap or both chosen traps for more points.

Mike we just recieved and programed a Long Range controller for the 5 stand and the weather has been bad. Tried 1 shooter set it for that and it worked perfectly. It has flurry in it but we have not gotten that far yet. Tried a flurry once and had to remind my shooters that your guns have ejectors use them and pick up when we are done. Have a long way to go with this gang.Oh o the President is a member here but only reads the for sale section.

You can program the flush mode so you can throw a flush, flurry, cordoba, etc. You can set the traps and the timing of firing the traps. For the Cordoba you just program in the true pairs and fire manually through the game.

Looked into the instructions for the flurry today and we will use it in a few weeks. Had 10 shooters today and it worked great except for operator error which was easily corrected. I want to get as many people to operate it as possible so it no longer will need a dedicated puller. That has been the death of the last 2 set-ups in that the same person has to do it or it is closed hence the programable, just push the pull button controller and the traps at 8 and easy turn on and off.

Daniel, we updated our wireless system to a Long Range and it's awesome! We use the T-3 for tournaments and the MT4300 for daily use and we have a dedicated MT-4300 for 5-Stand/games. I really like the voice release for solo shooting. Most of the guys do really like it. One guy doesn't like the voice activated and prefers manual with delay. That's no problem, just a different way to run the shooting.

Mike the only time I used it was the RGS shoot, it was very slick and not one fail to release. Glad to see you jump into the modern century : )

Mike the MT 4300 is what we are using and so far for this luddite it is very user friendly. Will report back after a month or so on how it is going, we shoot it once a week now and a lot of the usual suspects are on vacation/ summer places so as time goes on more will become acclimated to it.

Well, we were wireless for about 3-4 years and we went with a system that better suits our needs with the Long Range. It works much better with our terrain and vegetation. We can even use it for our 3-Bird shoots and not have to use jumpers and gang receptacles and 10 miles of cords. :shock:

There is a slight learning curve but once you use the system it becomes intuitive. The "seasoned shooters" just need to get over their phobia of all things techie. They'll like it too. Any questions PM or call me.

Mike:

Neal has his Long Range stuff pretty well figured out. I remember when he started it. Its come a long way. My students used it at Nationals and other majors for many years. Good stuff.

I am trying to work out the possibility of attending your shoot. The Make a Break sounds great as long as that #7 bird is inside of 50 yards. LOL

Just a comment here that the Rock (Mike and Susan) threw over 100,000 clays during the PA State NSCA Championship hosted there over the past long weekend. Do the math, that's about 400 flats of shells shot by > 300 registered shooters. As I understand it Evil Mike the target setter has some big doings in store for their Northern SxS. :)

Bruce, at some point that #7 will be inside of 50 yards!!

Well now, there's a new euphemism. Leave it to an editor to come up with that. :rotf:

That sounds like the old COMPAC rule.... LOL

There ya go! As long as it passes through “the box” at some point it’s a legit target. I forgot all about that.

We’re adding another non-trophy event for this year, Super Sporting. It’ll be a 54 bird event. Three pair (report or simo) on nine stations. Three traps per station. So you will shoot an A-B, B-C and A-C on each station. If enough guys like it we’ll bring it back in 2022 with a trophy too. More fun than a barrel full of stoats!!

Sounds like fun.

Sign me up!

Super Sporting is a great event. Various menu for the different gauges. Sign me up.

Well I decided on what guns will make the road trip to Mike's. Fox CE 20ga 26" for the small bore course, LC Smith Grade 3 10ga and Parker CH Bernard 10ga for the big bore course. Three 8ga guns for the Back Bay 8ga shoot (two for friends) Parker GH 8/36, Parker PH 8/38 and Lefever 8/34. We will park in the upper lot and have a 10x10 canopy set up, stop by and say hello. Craig Larter

Smitty and I will be right there with you Yankees nestled in at the "Grotto". Just look for 2 labs and a shorthair roaming the area.

Bringing too many guns to list but will be shooting my PAC B grade for the first time in competition since I've owned her for the Fox big bore event. A Parker or two, a long legged Fox smallbore, a Lefever and an Ithaca. We show no favorites.

No Parker 8 hammer gun ????

I’ll bring two 8’s , two 10’s , two 12’s , hopefully two 16’s a hammerless 20 a hammerless 28 possibly a hammerless 410 and an SC trap . All same brand except the 410 which is an IJ . Hopefully all I bring will be used in an event .

Nice genteel southerners are just what’s needed up there in them there northern states . The couple months I lived in northeastern PA they told me I talked funny my response was people from the south talk correctly , Yankees have a damn accent :whistle::rotf::rotf::rotf:

Mike I didn’t notice if you have a rifle range when I was there last month ?