Just picked up a Remington Model 11F, I believe Runge engraved. It has a second 32 inch barrel. Gun is early 1930's

Looks like a nice one!

Congrats Craig on a fine gun. The sighting plane on a 32" barrel on a M11 is longer than a 34" double gun. I have a M11 20ga with 32" barrel and I compared it next to my 34" Parker. Looking forward seeing some pics of harvested ducks with your new Remington.

Model 11 F
 

That is a beautiful gun Craig. Remington could really make some fantastic guns when they wanted to. :bowdown:

I have some early Ulrich engraved Model 12 Pigeon Grades and the Remingtons have it all over the Winchesters in the engraving department, although the Ulrich guns are nicer than the later Kusmit examples. I cowrote an article for the first quarter 2015 Remington Society Journal about my Model 10F owned previously by John Phillip Sousa. Oddly, the article included some nice pictures, unusual for me. The engraving is a similar pattern to the 11Fs pictured by Kevin and Craig. I also have a 10E that is every bit as nice as the 10F and with way better wood. Both are 32", 26" two barrel sets. Another of my favorite non SxSs is John Phillip Sousa's Lindner Daly Sextuple trap I wrote about in Double Gun Journal Summer 2013, also with pictures. Who said Murphy never posts pictures? I also love my Model 11 and Browning squarebacks, but I don't have any engraved examples, but I'm looking. My favorite Model 11 is a rare mint 20 gauge Skeet with factory beavertail. Another Model 11 20 is a round top conversion done in the forties, probably by Griffin and Howe. I've only seen one other, but it had a cracked receiver so I lost interest. It was a real tragedy because it was an F Grade. Today, I would rescue that gun, have it welded and reengraved.

My favorite Browning non SxS is my early thirties Auto-5 with a vintage Bert Parsons nine shot magazine which extends about half way up the polished aluminum Cutts Compensator with matching aluminum spreader tube. This is just the gun for a classic Southern quail hunt.

With all due respect..... classic southern quail hunt= two barrels, preferably SxS.:)

And just when you think you know someone:eek:

Speaking of Runge engraved Remingtons, What is up with the "Runge engraved Model 17F" I mentioned earlier, Lot #2287, that is in the upcoming Poulin auction? The Model 17 last appeared in the 1932 Remington catalog, when Bob Runge was sweeping floors at Meriden.

https://poulinantiques.hibid.com/cat...q=2287&ipp=100

When serial number 15213 was made, Bob Runge was likely still in short pants.

Dave what years did Loy engrave for Remington??

Info from Gene Myszkowski of The Remington Society --

Joe Loy remained foreman of the checkering and engraving department until his retirement from Remington May 1, 1940. According to an internal Remington memo 1/30/1970 from Sam Alvis, Remington Museum Curator, Carl Ennis reported that Joe Loy did most of the high grade Model 32s.

Carl Ennis graduated from Ilion High School in 1933 and went to work as a night security guard at Remington August 27, 1934. He was offered an engraving apprenticeship under Joe Loy some time in 1935 and left Remington in late 1936 or early 1937 to continue his training at Parker Gun Works in Meriden, CT. He returned six months later. He would have been an apprentice or at most a journeyman engraver when he returned.

The Runges -Robert R, (father) and Robert P. (son) did not come to Ilion, NY until late 1937 when Remington moved production of Parker shotguns to the main Remington plant there. Remington acquired Parker shotguns June 1, 1934. Robert P. or Bob (son) would have been an apprentice or at most a journeyman engraver when he moved to Ilion. Robert R.(father) would have been a master engraver on the same level as Joe Loy when he moved to Ilion. He most likely worked on the Parker shotguns being made in Ilion.

OK, Dave, after all that information, who do you think engraved the Model 17 that will be auctioned soon?

I don't know. Gene's book isn't out yet.

I picked up a Remington Model 32 this year. It’s a Skeet model with 20, 28, and .410 barrels built at Simmons. It is a really fun fun to shoot and I used it on Opening Day of dove season this year. First two shots with it at doves were a double! Unfortunately, the gun outperformed the shooter from that point forward!

great gun...I like the 3 barrel set up.....charlie