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Randy G Roberts 03-02-2019 06:22 PM

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At the request of the OP, Mr. Higgins I am going to post another pic of the previously posted BHE. Seems I may be in need of some better camera equipment. My digital camera cant be much over 20 years old. I like the birds on this one as well...

Larry Stauch 03-03-2019 12:16 PM

DHE 16 ga
 
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DHE 30" 16 gauge

Ken Descovich 03-03-2019 08:45 PM

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Here is a Ithaca NIG grade D

Dean Romig 03-05-2019 06:30 PM

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This pair on a Baker Paragon.


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Tom Jay 03-05-2019 10:26 PM

Who would have engraved dogs on Grade 3 top levers around 1886/1887? Is that recorded anywhere or known to anybody?

Dean Romig 03-05-2019 11:52 PM

Do you have The Parker Story ?

Engraving contractors and chief or head engravers are listed there. If you don't have TPS I can look it up tomorrow sometime.





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Tom Jay 03-06-2019 12:21 AM

Dean, I do not have a copy of TPS. Your look up would be appreciated. Thanks.

Dean Romig 03-06-2019 08:23 AM

According to pg. 478 of TPS, William E. Avery headed Parker Brothers engraving fron 1877 to 1887 but there is no entry for any other individual as being a Parker Brothers engraving contractor during this period.

I think we must assume there were others though, as no one man could have engraved the many thousands of guns produced during this ten year prriod...





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Tom Jay 03-06-2019 02:58 PM

Thank you Dean. Insightful information. It would be interesting to see side by side comparisons of the dog engravings during this 10 year period to see if there’s a pattern/style to identify if there was one or multiple engravers doing just the dogs.

Dean Romig 03-06-2019 06:37 PM

Generally speaking (again) the game scenes (dogs, birds, stags, etc.) were done by the head or chief engraver while the scroll was done by the journeymen engravers.





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Tom Kidd 03-06-2019 10:01 PM

No Flies on this one!
 
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[/ATTACH]I never had a guided grouse hunt so here are two for consideration. They are found on a pre-war Kornbrath engraved Model 21 that was custom made for John Brewster who built bodies for Springfield Rolls Royce. It is a 5lb 11oz 20ga that shoots as good as it looks. It was previously Russ Bickel's gun

Tom Jay 03-06-2019 10:14 PM

That’s some heavy engraving.

Dave Noreen 03-06-2019 11:51 PM

Those Kornbrath dogs sure beat the hell out of those Kusmit cartoon dogs often seen on overprice Model 21s.

Dean Romig 03-07-2019 12:01 AM

Russ Bickel was surely our friend.





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Tom Kidd 03-07-2019 12:23 AM

Outstanding Gunsmith and a True Friend
 
I met Russ when he opened a small gunshop on Rt 61 outside of Reading, Pa. with Mr. Banser. They had recently graduated from a Gunsmithing school in the Pittsburg area and one of his school projects was converting a Sterlingworth to a 45/70 double rifle. I stopped in and mentioned I liked Fox Guns and that led to a visit the next afternoon. That resulted in a friendship that lasted thru some 120 Ohio Gun Collector Shows and many other adventures over the years. He called me his mentor, and I was privileged to have had him as a friend. He left us way too soon. I also have his 16 bore Purdey Funeral Grade along with other personal items and they are all cherished by me.

Dean Romig 03-07-2019 12:31 AM

I will be forever in awe of his skill and precision. Russ did a couple of Parker jobs for me and the finished product was at least as precisely perfect as the work of the Meriden artisans.





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Tom Kidd 03-07-2019 07:00 AM

Opps, not a Parker!
 
I would like to apologize for not properly reading the rules of the game; 'calling all Parker engraved setters'. So let's just enjoy an outstanding set of engraved dogs while remembering our friend Russ Bickel.

Rick Losey 03-07-2019 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Kidd (Post 268078)
I would like to apologize for not properly reading the rules of the game; 'calling all Parker engraved setters'. So let's just enjoy an outstanding set of engraved dogs while remembering our friend Russ Bickel.

RULES????

we got rules????


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Dean Romig 03-07-2019 08:17 AM

No apologies necessary. Finely engraved setters eclipse all brands.





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Eric Eis 03-07-2019 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Kidd (Post 268078)
I would like to apologize for not properly reading the rules of the game; 'calling all Parker engraved setters'. So let's just enjoy an outstanding set of engraved dogs while remembering our friend Russ Bickel.

I don't care if there were rules, the engraving on that M21 is outstanding and thank you for sharing it with us. I do miss Russ.

legh higgins 03-08-2019 11:29 AM

the lower 40 club had only one rule. No Rules...

Bill Bates 03-08-2019 01:19 PM

A couple of setter

https://a4.pbase.com/o4/10/209910/1/...S103_03_10.jpg

Here is a setter or at least I think it is setter by engraver Orville Kuhl on an customized 16 gauge VHE


https://a4.pbase.com/o6/10/209910/1/...i.Parker10.jpg

he did better on the pointer on the right side

https://a4.pbase.com/o6/10/209910/1/...ck.Parker9.jpg

Mark Ray 03-08-2019 01:23 PM

I just knew someone was going to try and sneak a Pointer in here!

legh higgins 03-08-2019 04:42 PM

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I just knew someone was going to try and sneak a Pointer in here!

that's ok it will keep the ticks off the setters!

legh higgins 03-21-2019 10:31 AM

last chance to enter your engraved setters for the Grouse hunting trip over Twombly setters in October.:bigbye:

Charles Waltman 03-21-2019 03:45 PM

engraved setter
 
My name is Chuck Waltman, I am PGCA member . I want to contribute

a pic of engraved setter, enjoying your post, hope you can use

this image....Thank you, Chuck

Dean Romig 03-21-2019 04:23 PM

Nothing there Chuck. Please try again.





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legh higgins 03-22-2019 12:02 PM

english setters Vermont hunt
 
we will announce the winner of the Vermont Grouse hunt tonight Friday 3/22/19 at 6:00 pm.
Winner must bring winning gun to Vermont for photo shoot and Hunting story to be printed in parker pages winter edition.

Thank you all for participating. Legh Higgins Twombly Setters :bigbye:

legh higgins 03-22-2019 06:14 PM

The Winner of the Vermont Guided Grouse hunt in October 2019 is
Phil Carr with his 1916 dh 28 gauge engraved during the Frederic W. Anschutz
Chief engraver period.

We loved the dogs athletic stance locked up on point. With his high head and excellent feather, reminiscent of my grandads dogs.

Congrats to Phil we cant wait to see his gun in person. Our plan is to photograph "the Gun" and take photos of our hunt in the peak of foliage season. for a winter Parker Pages article.

thanks to all who entered photos it was fun.


Legh Higgins bigbye:


(hopefully Dean will upload the winning image for me)

Dean Romig 03-22-2019 06:23 PM

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Phil Carr's DH 28 gauge.


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Bob Hayes 03-22-2019 06:38 PM

Congrats Phil

Jim DiSpagno 03-22-2019 07:18 PM

Way to go Phil. Great gun and great hunt you’re going on. Just remember to get Patriot tickets. LOOl

Phillip Carr 03-22-2019 07:34 PM

Wow I’m so excited. Just got home and read this great news. Thank you so much Mr Higgins for providing this contest and providing such a wonderful hunt.
I’m honored and thrilled to be able to bring my DH 28 out to hunt with you and your dogs this fall.
They’re was so many wonderful pictures posted I am humbled to have the Setter on my Parker selected.
Thank you and Best Regards.
Phil

Randy G Roberts 03-22-2019 07:43 PM

Congrats Phil, a very worthy Setter for certain. Also thank you to Mr. Higgins for making this happen. A very generous gesture indeed and a story I am looking forward to reading in the PP. Thanks again and have a great hunt.

Dean Romig 03-22-2019 07:47 PM

Congratulations Phil!

I’m really glad your gun won and I know you’re going to love those Northeast Kingdom covers... you have brush pants, long sleeves and pigskin gloves, right?

Thanks Legh for providing this great thread that was a lot of fun, allowed so many of us to show off our Parkers and gave us all a real treat to see the great engraving on so many nice guns.





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Phillip Carr 03-22-2019 07:53 PM

Dean I have read how tuff some of the cover is and will be doing some more research. The pants and boots I have covered. Everything sticks and pokes in Arizona. Long sleeve shirts... what’s that ? LOL.

Mark Ray 03-22-2019 08:12 PM

Great choice! Thanks again for this fun thread!

legh higgins 03-22-2019 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by legh higgins (Post 268288)
that's ok it will keep the ticks off the setters!

lord I should not have said that.:bigbye:

Dean Romig 03-22-2019 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Phillip Carr (Post 269734)
Dean I have read how tuff some of the cover is and will be doing some more research. The pants and boots I have covered. Everything sticks and pokes in Arizona. Long sleeve shirts... what’s that ? LOL.


I may have told this before so forgive me in advance for repeating myself.

A while back when I showed up at work after a few days chasing grouse in Vermont’s NEK with my arms about shredded from briars, thornapple, hawthorn and such and the guys asked “What the blank happened to you?” I told them we have this game at grouse camp to see who can hold the cat underwater in the rain barrel the longest. I told them “The cat always seems to win.”

But that’s why the long sleeves.





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Rick Losey 03-22-2019 10:36 PM

Great choice

Congrats Phil


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