I would rather have a well used Widgeon Duck Club gun that I can take to the duck blind and clays course with no reservations

Can you post some pictures of your BHE Rich?

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Well....we all gotta make money appear in our bank accounts, I guess, but I've always had a lot more respect for people who do something, produce something, or add value to something than those who simply are opportunists.

I think the universe would be far happier to see the gun (any gun) sell to someone who will use it to shoot and cherish it than someone who thinks he can use it to transfer money from someone else's bank account to his next week. Incredibly old-fashioned and out of fashion ideas, I know.


At the end of the day...I'm not at all convinced there was any error made by the previous seller. Mainly because I'm thinking $35K for such a gun is probably very close to 'market price'...if not at the high end of the range. Time will tell...:whistle:

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David

Comment from near the grassy knoll...
 

at the risk of speaking out of turn.....

does anyone else find it a bit curious that the bidding stopped very very close to the stated (on this site) "reserve" (or sellers desired price 49K or 50+K).....?????

No requirement to buy as reserve was not met..........sure makes for a nice set up when the buy it now price is posted....

Were the high end bidders friends of ours on this site? I do not recognize them?

just one man's opinion.....I have probably said too much.

Goodness gracious that is a sweet little gun!!!!

It is a sweet gun...a lot sweeter at 35K. IMHO 50k is out of line.

No way. It's worth every penny. How much??

My guess is the seller is looking to strike a deal with one of the top bidders

I find this entire thing to be more than a little crazy. Just from watching this from the side lines. I've determined that I will have this dealer on my caution beware list, if not on the outright do not deal with list.

That's just me and I hope I haven't stepped out of line or offended anyone.

Some of the comments about this Parker are sounding just like a bunch of old "biddys" in the basement of a church on bingo night or someone peeping over a fence with binoculars observing the goings on at the new neighbor's house. For Christ's sake, the seller is obligated to the consignor to make as much on the sale as possible, and most likely is being strongly guided by what the owner says and wants. If I consigned a gun, that is what I would want. I don't think it's trickery or espionage, or caring where the gun ends up, it's just a sale of rare gun, that's all. That is why I spend very little time commenting on discussion forums compared to most, because things can go way off topic or over the top sometimes and I usually just sign off and forget about it. But this time the conversation just got too ridiculous and comical for me to bear. This thread makes me think I'm really reading it on Doublegun, BBS. More than myself, I'm sure, would hope to have the chance to do what the consignor has done. If you just look at it for what it is, instead of through envy or trying to figure what kind of a scheme is going on, there is not much to talk about.

Bill

Except the fact that it is a fabulous BHE 20 in very nice condition and in a very desirable configuration.






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Now that, I can agree with!

Bird season is just around the corner. Not only that, the seller has M-1 Carbine ammunition and a consecutive pair of camo Browning duck guns to sell.

David Liem
I completely agree with everything you said! I will not purchase from, or sell to, a flipper but everyone need to eat
This is a great thread with several different but valid points of view.

David

I think the new owner (The Flipper) has great expectations as to the true value of his investment.

As I have mentioned before according to TPS only about 6 guns were produced with straight grip and 32 inch barrels. I know the whereabouts of three and two of them are for sale.

More from the grassy knoll.....
 

Ok so .........the auction goes off at 48K
The gun is for sale (still there) on GI for 50K #100726105
The high bidder and dealer can't get together on this gun? They can't find a price point to satisfy each other????
What is the high bidder thinking??? I will pay 48K but not 49K or 50k??? I am going to hold out for the next one ...:rotf:
How about the seller? That extra 2K or less is gonna break the deal??? only a 13K profit in a week is unaccepatble??? He has to get all 15K????:banghead:
Really......is it still unresonable to conclude the high bidder (who bid right up to the resrve but did not hit it) was a ghost....
If he is real he should be shouldering the gun right now.
Guns like that don't likely get passed over for another 2-4% - not in this market.
If he is real and out there, I hope we hear from this mysterious bidder. I would love to hear his though process on this whole........... cherade.

Real bidder? Hardly.

it is an attempt to determine its high value... IMHO





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By the seller going through a shill bidder......:nono:

More likely an attempt to set the value with a couple of shill bidders.

I cannot imagine bidding $48,000 for a gun on Gunbroker.

Yea....it seems a visit in person might be more fitting. Then, I've bought cars for $40K on Ebay....

But the odds of this gun not being shill bid are right at zero...

This gun didn't sell at a recent auction

This gun is a new one day auction on GB every day. It is obnoxious. I have to delete my search every day.
What a clown.

It is very obnoxious. It's a free country, though, I guess

The Flipper thought he would turn a quick profit, I guess he was wrong.

The fact that is proven is that the seller had at least one shill auction where he did not accept a $48000 bid. Obviously, that was a shill bid.

Easy now you old biddys..........lets save this talk for bingo night.......:rotf:

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I'm just glad it's over, it was wearing me out!

You don't have to wait til bingo night, you already have it here. I think some of you are just flat out pissed because you either didn't get to this gun first or couldn't afford it if you would have. And that reaction is truly funny!

Bill

So, did it sell?

What I wanted is the GH 20 gauge with 32" barrels that recently sold on Gunbroker. It was out of my price range, but not way out. It also had honest wear, so you wouldn't feel guilty about using it.

Mills, I'm shocked that gun went for what it did.... I was the first bidder and kept watching until it started to get silly.
Last year David Trevallion had an identical gun in his shop that had been there for years, (owner couldn't decide what he wanted done), except the gun at his shop had an original stock. It was apparently not for sale, as I had made an extremely attractive offer but the owner said it was a family heirloom and he wouldn't sell at any price.





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Me too, I ran it up to 7700.00+ range than gave up:crying: maybe the next one:)
scott

Scott, there comes a point where common-sense economics needs to come into play... enough is enough!

I've played that game before - "Damn the price tag - Full speed ahead!" and have been 'upside-down' on a gun. Never again! (file that under "Famous Last Words") :whistle:





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Getting upside down on a few guns is just the price of admission to this hobby

I hope I did ok with the PH 10 ga?? :whistle:

There was a nice straight grip GHE 20 with 32" vent rib barrels in the Julia Auction several years ago. I thought I was gonna buy it...man was I wrong about that!

Everytime I have passed on a small bore parker because it was 10% or even 15% higher than I would ever consider paying in my wildest fits of abandon......I wake up a couple years later and see one like it sell for more! Then I think of all the times I could have carried shouldered and shot that gun and still been $$$ ahead. Its easy to lose money on guns. You have to reallllllllly overpay to lose money on small bores....(20 ga GH ejector straight grip 32" you dont see those everyday)....and even then you most likely can just wait it out.:whistle:

Anybody have any long barrel 20 bores they want to sell? please send me a PM:)