Best to turn your phone completely off at Hausmans as it will die very quick from searching for a signal constantly.

Matt, coming from Ohio? Look at Interstate 86 along the NY/PA line. I drove it last year and it was a good choice for me. I can't remember if I used NY417 but I think I did? Getting old and "the second thing" is going I guess.

interstate 86 is the old four lane route 17 with the grade crossings removed, 417 is the really old two lane 17.

you can get off 86 at Nichols and head south on 282 into PA- a GPS or mapquest will fill in the back roads

that's my usual route, going to be sorry to miss it this year.

You will most definitly be missed Rick. Sorry that you can't make it.

+1 what Dave said.

Will you need to miss every day of it Rick?

I go I-81 to Wilkes Barre, then 309 to 29 into Tunkhannock then Rt 6 to Meshoppen, 267 through Lawnton then 4015 to Flynn Rd. Takes me about 3 hrs from Harrisburg.

afraid so- been called to grand jury duty starting the week before (5 days a week for 4 weeks, they said the DA can't figure out a better way - I think we need a smarter DA :whistle: )- so that ties up Friday, and the granddaughters' first dance recital is Saturday, so that would leave a rushed trip on Sunday getting there late morning- I figure that mornings at these events is generally the last shooting and lots of folks will be filtering out to hit the road.

Robin, yes, driving up from Ohio. If your there, hope I can meet up with you.

Matt, hope to meet you there.

Coming from the south, Chuck's route is the way to go.

Well, We are getting close and oh my the Fox boys are talkin trash over on their site. Let's just see how this all plays out.

Trash talking is just their way of coping with an inferior gun complex.

Yeah they are!! I'm afraid not even Team LC Smith could beat the Fox Brothers!! :crying:

I hope Ernie has the pigeon ring operational.

Are any PGCA BLANK NAME TAGS available for the NE S/S???
It would be great to identify other members not yet met!
Bob Jurewicz

Bob, I may have a few with me at Ernies. And just to add a bit of gas to the fire.

Bob,
That's a great idea. Deb just made up a couple dozen blank PGCA name tags so anyone who wants one need only stop by our table. We will also have whats left of the PGCA 20th Anniversary towels as well as some 2014 raffle tickets for the D Grade Parker top lever hammer gun that will be on display there.

Just spoke with RST. They are in production NOW and will have shells at the NE S/S.
Bob Jurewicz

Well that's good news... apparently things have changed since I spoke with Morris two weeks ago.

It seems the Fox guys were afraid to shoot us straight up on the Sporting Clays Range so they decided to change the rules. This year the shoot-off will now be held on something called The Crazy Quail. I was curious what that might be and found this http://crazyquail.com/ presentation of Crazy Quail. Not sure how they figure this will help them win but knowing Toolman I'm sure he has something devious up his sleeve. It looks like we all better practice our speed reloading.

Not really a game for SXS shooters unless we have two guns each along with a loader right beside us.

I much prefer shooting in the woods on the "hunters clays" course..... Oh well, this is progress I suppose.

and definitely not a game for the reloader because the speed of reloading demands you eject your empty hulls to the ground.

Looks like it was invented by somebody with stock in White Flyer.

Update on Fox Collector shooting events
 

Just a quick update on the Fox Collector specialized shooting events at the upcoming Northeast Side by Side .... today we started setting up for our Bo-Whoop Long Range Shoot and our W C Letternam Cup SBT event. As previously communicated, this year we'll have a third trap for each of the competitions. That third trap throws chondelle targets, kind of like a single quacker dropping into the blocks. As usual we "proof shot" the targets and I'm happy to report that a 410 using 2-1/2-inch shells with 1/2 ounce of 9's did the trick on all three birds. No kidding. And no excuses this year gents!

Reminder: you don't have to shoot a Fox to come away with one of the cash purses.

THE FOX-PARKER CHALLENGE will be reported separately by those in charge of that event.

Getting set up at the Bo-Whoop shooting station. The WCL SBT shooting station will be off a bit to the right and isn't set up yet in this pic.
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One of the traps with a fancy adjustment base
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Vendor tent going up at Hidden Hollow
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The "Crazy Quail" is set up and running at Ernies. There will be a 3-4 second delay between the targets. I am told that the possibilities of the target presentation are endless. There are a few details still to be worked out but I am sure this will be a challenge for all that compete. Bring your "A" game boy's!

I had a question on the Fox site about the 410 with 9-shot and how that fits with the concept of a long-range shoot. :nono: Just fyi I am copying my answer here. :)

..... I didn't say the 410 with 9-shot did well, only that all three birds were breakable with same. Comment was intended in humor for some friends who whine every year that the birds can't be broken, are too far out, flight path(s) are funky, we should allow 1-1/2 ounces of shot, "should have brought my Flak 88", etc etc.

This year the #1 target is a high quartering going-away bird - you can see the trap in the second pic, #2 is a nice slow incomer, #3 is a condelle that settles about 35 yards in front of the shooter. No problem gents .....

If a bird is consistently breakable with 9 shot out of any guage shotgun it is not a long range target. Why not be true to the Bo-Whoop legacy of long range shooting and throw targets where the shooter has 55 to 60 yard presentations?

This is one of those things I can't win so I'll just say, please quote me accurately Mr. Lester. I did not write CONSISTENTLY, you did. :whistle:

Just trying to do some publiciity here. Those who've been to the Northeast and have attempted the Bo-Whoop targets will know that we've been true to the BW tradition; and we will be again this year. Shooters will see presentations where the better choice is to shoot the target at long range. This is our seventh year and we had almost 200 shooters last year so we (I) must be doing something right putting on a long range shoot.

Frank I think you missed my point, a 410 shooting 9's could break long range target, (which is what I thought the Bo-Whoop was about), however, those breaks would be a fluke. I used the word consistently in a deliberate manner, and I do not see where I adding anything to what I quoted you said (the computer takes care of that). My point and retort to your post is, if a load of 9's can break those clay targets consistently they are not long range targets.

I was challenging your publicity post for what was, a challenge from you or even a taunt to those who try the Bo-Whoop and miss.

Well Mr Lester maybe if you coordinated the B-W shooting for 6 years and spent 6 X 2 = 12 days with gents who were laughing and joking about hitting and missing, and what it takes to break our long range targets, you'd better understand the humor that was intended with my post about all three targets being breakable with 1/2 ounce of 9's from a 410. Note that I didn't say consistently breakable which seems to be the point youre trying to make. I have the signup sheets from the shooting for the last three years and I don't see your name listed as a shooter. Let me ask, have you ever even been to the Northeast SxS and seen the Bo-Whoop setup? If you had you'd better understand the culture of the event and maybe get off your soapbox trying to turn my words into taunting or a "challenge" - based on a very debatable "interpretation" of my comments.

Is it just me or is this not going in a friendly direction? I merely challenged your assertion, joking or not, that a 410 and 9's was a viable gun and load having seen your target presentations in the past. Yes I have been to this shoot. Yes I have tried the Bo-Whoop some time ago and I have not cared to participate in it since then for reasons not related to target presentation but I understand your having fun with it.

Back up to Hidden Hollow today to get some final work done on the Fox Collectors' specialty shooting venues. Here are some random pics:

Bo-Whoop shooting station to the left and the WC Letterman Cup SBT station on the right. That's our Kaiser nosing around.
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Large vendor tent is up
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Bill, Donnie (on the ground), Charlie and Boyd supervising
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RST tent is up
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Cobbie already set up
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Other vendors were starting to show up as I was leaving
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See you all tomorrow! I am set up right next to the PGCA booth. :bigbye:

Here are some random pictures from the Northeast Side by Side shoot, what great weather we had!

In the next to last photo are PGCA members, Matt Valinski, Dean Romig and Eric Eis.

Chris Travinski shot the course on Fri and Sat.

Frank Cronin and Chis Travinski look over the targets on Sat. Frank shot a 42 x 50 on Friday and took 2nd place with long run in the 12ga class of the Hunters Clays event.

A couple of pictures of me, Chris said he got one of me hitting a clay pigeon, I don't think there is any photographic evidence of that unless I use photoshop :)

A fine event with perfect weather for camping, shooting, general camaraderie, and on Saturday evening, another hilarious episode of the Rich and Edgar Show! For a tyro like me, the learning opportunities were endless. Thanks to one and all! --Allan

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