Dave

Yes, I cover Newfane but Wilmington is next district over.

Bill

OK, I get what your asking now. YES, in my experience most double shooters always seem to be true sportsmen for the most part and law abiding. Now that DOES NOT imply that pump or auto loaders are not....!! But for some reason there is a true connection with many strict double shooters conservationism and following the game laws..?? I find most upland game hunters in general are law abiding. I have no opinion as for why this is.

All the best
Kelly

Kelly,

I bet you also find the same true about men and women that use a fly rod.

Bill

Kelly, you don't know my friend Bill. We have a little thing about not shooting the female quail out here. Well, Bill shot a couple anyway, said he couldn't tell. They don't have quail in Michigan, where he lives, but they have grouse and I wouldn't be surprised to hear that he shoots the females of that species also. So if he ever comes back east and winds up in Vermont, watch out for him and keep your citation book handy.

Kelly,

You will notice Bruce holding a very rare Michigan Prairie Chicken, as a matter of fact they are now extinct.

Bill

Bruce: there are quail in Michigan, just not many I suspect. We used to hear them on our farm all summer. I remember hearing them daily in the late 50's and into the 60's until they took the bounty off fox. My sister has one that follows her around and sometimes sits on her foot as she hoes her garden and jumps off and grabs insects that get stirred up. I think there aren't many these days but there are a few. There's too many coons, possums, foxes and coyotes for upland birds to get too numerous these days. They have REALLY cleaned out the wild pheasants despite there being lots of good habitat.

Bill

What I find is that women are just as talented at fly fishing as men. They also shoot better.

:cheers::cheers:

Predator/Varmint hunting in Wolverine State
 

[QUOTE=Richard Flanders;8361]Bruce: there are quail in Michigan, just not many I suspect. We used to hear them on our farm all summer. I remember hearing them daily in the late 50's and into the 60's until they took the bounty off fox. My sister has one that follows her around and sometimes sits on her foot as she hoes her garden and jumps off and grabs insects that get stirred up. I think there aren't many these days but there are a few. There's too many coons, possums, foxes and coyotes for upland birds to get too numerous these days. They have REALLY cleaned out the wild pheasants despite there being lots of good habitat. We do have a "on the books" quail season here in Michigan, but the lowest tier of counties that border Ohio and Indiana are the only ones open, and few birds, mainly due to predators- My son-in-law and I do our part to control them: woodchucks (not a true predator) fox, raccoon, feral cats and coyotes. Opening Day of our firearm deer season Nov 15 2008- private 260 Centennial Farm in Mecosta County- from opening light until 11:30- from a ground blind I shot two coyotes with my Dad's older M70 in 30-06 scoped and with 180 grain Rem Core-Lokt rounds-there is a sheep ranch/farm adjacent, those two rascals never circled or checked the wind, even though that farm had some hunting pressure for 6 weeks of the preceedent bow season for deer- This Fall while squirrel hunting with a scoped Ruger BA and hollow points- sunny still early October afternoons I shot several raccons, possums and one dog Fox that almost walked right up to me-The lack of hunting pressure and NO Bounties has emboldened those predators-- and in our area, where 20 years ago the farms held some huntable populations of ringnecked pheasants, clean farming and pesticides have taken their toll-

I agree about most gentlemen and ladies who hunt upland birds and the usage of double guns (even those bulky Over and Unders I see: Ruger and Citoris--You can never say never, but as the confiscation of your shotgun for a violation is a possibility, perhaps that may be one of many salient factors in the "staying within the limit" and playing the game fairly while afield. As far as the character of the gunner however, let us not forget that the late Nash Buckingham started with a Winchester M1893 pumpgun (and his father Miles told him to only load it with two shells when partnered with someone using a double gun) and although in his prime years he used many fine doubles (Becker, M21- etc) in his twilight years he used some autoloaders as well.

As far as those of us who treasure our Parkers and the scotch whisky syndrome, I can't speak to that: George Dickel, Old Cabin Still, Early Times, Bushmills Black and Tullamore Dew are my favorite choices- on the rocks please- not a Kilt in that gathering- alas--

Finally, as my GHE 12 Project parker also had some numbers besides the @ frame size stamp on the lug, I noted that this 12 DH size 1 & 1/2 framed Parker also had a number 8 in smaller case stamped on the barrel lug. I am curious as to what that might mean..:rolleyes:

I see that Francis has not been talked into drinking the fifty dollar a fifth bourbon "koolaid". I don't know a lot about Cabin Still, but, some years ago, I had a customer who inflated my opinion of it. He would come into the store at all hours of the day and night, slip into the bourbon section, crank the lid off of a bottle of CS and take a long slow draw. He never changed brands, so I assumed he knew what he liked. He never stole a bottle and we never figured out who he was.