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Chuck Bishop 04-29-2012 07:40 PM

Mearl,

I live in Harrisburg and I'd be more than happy to look at your Parker.

Send me a PM or e-mail at bishop474(insert @ sign)comcast.net. and we'll make contact.

I'll give it my best shot!

Chuck Bishop

Brian Dudley 04-29-2012 09:12 PM

Most likely the gun is either an ungrade or the barrels have been replaced with a set of Trojan barrels. I will also request pics to be posted.

Paul Ehlers 04-29-2012 09:24 PM

Didn't Frank Pachmayr do several big time upgrades using a Trojan as the base platform?

If I remember correctly he did several of these for different raffle/auction guns for fund raisers for different oganizations. Correct me if I'm wrong, but some of these he even re-profiled the Trojan action to look like a graded Parker.

Could this be one of the Pachmayr up-graded Trojans??

Just think'in

Harry Collins 04-29-2012 09:43 PM

I would like to see pictures of your Parker. I have a number of higher grade Parkers that had Damascus barrels that were sent to Parker Bros and returned with Vulcan barrels. Could your Parker have been fitted with Trojan barrels? Sure....

Dean Romig 04-29-2012 10:10 PM

It would not have been cost-effective to have fit the gun with Trojan Barrels when the rounded rib extension would not have fit the recess in a BH frame for a doll's head extension, thereby necessitating the replacement of the extension piece as well. A replacement set of Vulcan Steel barrels would have made a whole lot more sense.

Chuck Bishop 04-30-2012 07:30 AM

The Serialization book lists it as a Trojan and Mearl indicates that the research letter also lists it as a Trojan. The question then is whether or not the frame was reshaped to resemble a B grade frame and engraved in a B style or just left as a Trojan style frame. I just doubt that someone would return a Trojan back to the factory for added engraving and fancier wood. I guess if the engraving looks like factory work, it could have been done by Runge.

Hopefully Mearl will contact me soon and we'll have a better idea what it is.

Brian Dudley 04-30-2012 09:17 AM

There are a couple of higher grade parkers on GB right now that fitted with Trojan barrels.

edgarspencer 04-30-2012 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck Bishop (Post 68661)
I just doubt that someone would return a Trojan back to the factory for added engraving and fancier wood.

More to the point, I seriously doubt the factory would have even accepted an order to upgrade a Trojan in order to make it "look like a B grade". I question the logic, or thought process behind trying to make a Trojan frame into a graded frame when there are so many V grade guns available, where it already has the physical dimensions of everything on up to whatever you want to make it into.

Rick Losey 04-30-2012 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Dudley (Post 68669)
There are a couple of higher grade parkers on GB right now that fitted with Trojan barrels.

But i wonder if the fitting was done by Parker/Remington - and or by another souce.

For Parker -with vulcan barrel available it doesn't make sense

For another gunsmith who only has the trojan tubes at hand, it certainly could be done.

Bruce Day 04-30-2012 10:26 AM

In the Dick Washburn example shown above, he related that he did it to demonstrate his abilities. That gun still has the non dolls head rib extension which is received into a slot in the action frame. Its not unusual that engravers take on a Trojan to showcase their talents, but certainly trying to do the frame sculpting, bolster ribs, and complex engraving is a difficult task made more difficult unless a V grade is used.

But I suppose we could say that the Washburn gun is an A-1 Special Trojan and the Mace gun is a B grade Trojan ! Now where do I find that in the Parker Serialization and Identification Book.......

Mearl, Chuck Bishop knows his Parkers and taking him up on his offer could be enlightening.


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