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Daryl Corona 08-25-2025 12:10 PM

Can't see the Cutts but I happen to like them. Wood is gorgeous.

Jim Beilke 08-25-2025 02:40 PM

My Dad use to refer to the Cutts as a Corn Cob on the end of the barrel

Dave Noreen 08-25-2025 06:51 PM

I suppose I'll get flamed for this, but I find that coarse checkering and stippling around the fleur-de-lis on high grade post WW-II Model 12 and 21s pretty poor compared to what our factories were putting out on high grade Parker Bros., Remington, Lefever, etc. doubles sixty years earlier. The checkering on the F-Grade Remington pumps and autos being made concurrently with those Model 12 and 21s was better.

Larry Stauch 08-25-2025 09:04 PM

Remington
 
What is interesting is when Remington wanted to do it, they were the best. Engraving and the checking is second to none. Unfortunately, they decided that they didn’t want to do it moving forward. What a shame. But, thankfully, we have available to us some of their best efforts.

Keith Sirmans 08-30-2025 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Janowski (Post 434969)
Keith, Here is the story. I think it was around 2001, this gun was listed on gun broker by Buffalo Bills shooting emporium in Florida. There were several very bad pictures and the gun went through two cycles with no interest.
I thought at first it was an upgrade as we all know there are a ton of them out there.
What I noticed from the pictures was the Winchester name coming through the leather covered pad. I thought if it was upgraded no way would they have used a Winchester pad to cover with leather.
I called and they didn’t know much about it except that the owner lived in the neighborhood and told them his father worked for Winchester as a salesman and this was his gun.
I struck a great deal as they had no interest in it.
You can’t imagine how happy I was when I opened the box!
It is one of my favorite Model 12’s, and I think if you only want one example, this is it.

I think so now and now I have to ask him.

Bill Murphy 08-30-2025 02:59 PM

Researcher, the coarse around 1950 checkering on Model 12 graded guns is how we identify them as "original". Don't be to hard on them. I don't know why they did that, but they did.

todd allen 08-30-2025 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Noreen (Post 435012)
I suppose I'll get flamed for this, but I find that coarse checkering and stippling around the fleur-de-lis on high grade post WW-II Model 12 and 21s pretty poor compared to what our factories were putting out on high grade Parker Bros., Remington, Lefever, etc. doubles sixty years earlier. The checkering on the F-Grade Remington pumps and autos being made concurrently with those Model 12 and 21s was better.

Yes, but then look at the British Bests, H & H, as an example.

Steve McCarty 09-06-2025 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Beilke (Post 434925)
Mr McCarty, It looks as though you need to expand your Horizons. There is always room for one more Deer hunter. Give it a try.

LOL: Jim, I am 80 years old. Have never popped a cap at a deer or elk. Years ago, I shot most of the cayotes that lived and died in Kansas. I used a Remington Model 99 in .243. It had a tip off scope. Today, I don't know what I'd do with a dead deer. Probably hold a funeral.

Jim Beilke 09-06-2025 06:08 PM

One would eat a dead deer, considered by many as fine dining, especially in this house.

Scott Janowski 09-06-2025 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Keith Sirmans (Post 435157)
I think so now and now I have to ask him.

Let me know.


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