sounds wright to me, i will do some test too. i will give before(plain fiber wad) and after(nitro card over fiber) patterns. scott

If a thinner card is needed, I have used a over shot card on top of the fiber wad to prevent compressing of the shot with good results.

ok, my test are in about fiber and hard card placement in the wad. i loaded 1 1/8 th oz 7 1/2's. one with fiber only and the other with 2 hard cards. used my NH 30 in .036 choked gun and the fiber shot 328 in a 30 in. pattern at 40 yds(about 87 %) the hard card shot 329 in a 30 in. pattern( pete,FYI that would be 1 more hit :rotf:)but with that said, the hard card pattern had a much tighter hit count in the center; where the other one was more even spaced over the 30 inch target. i think the hard cards would shoot tighter at longer distance targets . :) scott

thanks for the test results scott...ive patterned lots of the heavy loads in the ten but just starting to pattern the lighter loads...killed a few squirl a way out yonder this past year using some of yalls light loads recipes.... charlie

The light loads have become a nice habit. not only have they helped with stretching my bags of lead farther but I feel a heckofalot sharper with my 1ozers when I pull some of them out. I have to add that I drop the charge too so using less again stretches the tub of powders also.

I see that most recipe list have numerous primers listed. Next to Remington 209's which are the closest to them as far as reliability and consistancy???

For Remington primers are all I have used...

Interesting Scott. A 87% pattern at 40 yards is bordering on phenomenal. What a great Turkey or long range Pheasant load. I thought I was doing good to get 65% using 1 1/8th ounce of chilled #6s at 40 yards.

Keith, I substitute Winchester primers for Remington's with no other changes in the load.

Not sure about consistency, but here's some information about primer effect on pressures.


http://www.armbrust.acf2.org/primersubs.htm

winchester 209 usally lower preasures than other brand primers as a whole...this is what i use except for the old 57 rem... which i load a lot.... charlie