And Art Wheaton and Allan Swanson and Austin Hogan and Charlie Herzog and Bill Furnish and Ron Kirby and soo many others, some of whom are still with us but their time is shortenin’ and unless it is recorded soon it also will be lost. Years ago I suggested to Allan and a couple of others that a sit-down Parker gab session could be electronically recorded and this could be done as a meeting on a quarterly basis but there didn’t seem to be any interest.





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Dean, what do you propose? For your information, I own the Dick Baldwin collection of research material. In past years, I have been accused of obtaining that information by nefarious means by several PGCA powers. I have freely shared any information from this collection when it is requested. Each time I share this information, I am accused of receiving this information by whatever uncouth methods. Nothing could be further from the truth. Dick and I agreed that I would be the custodian of this file. I have always been willing to share, but others in PGCA have not. Your turn.

I replied to Al Houde by PM and maybe he will share my reply, with my permission, to add to this conversation.

Bill, please don’t think I am pointing a finger at anyone. I am only suggesting that information needs to be shared before it is lost forever. If a custodian of historic information dies without sharing that information it is potentially lost forever unless the family knows its importance and makes moves to have that information shared…. Which is a highly unlikely expectation.

No offense intended.





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Hello Bill:

I wrote you back via a PM. I know that you gave permission to share it, but I believe private messages should stay just that.

With that said, maybe we as members should put our heads together or maybe ask leadership about this subject of sharing information.

I understand and fully support the research letters and the fee behind them. That is a whole different thing. But perhaps we need to go further and catalog some of the historical information like in this subject thread for example.

I have a high interest in both Remington and Parker, and their brief effort together. I enjoyed the comments.

We hear and grumble a lot that we are dying out, and young people have little interest. I feel that they do, but they need that mentorship and knowledge that many, many, members here have.

I also read all the old threads and comments about the past. It is just that, the past. And sadly, many of those "old guard" guys are no longer with us.

As an organization, we should look towards the future. Remington used to have printed on their letterhead - Don't say it, write it.

Any thoughts or ideas? One team, one fight as we used to say.

Bill, I did not know that you had some of Dick Baldwin's research material and I assume it is primarily pertaining to Parker.

Just to clarify my comments earlier in this thread, I was referring to the Remington (including Parker) historical information by the named people [and there are others] that was carried around in their heads and not committed to print until it was too late. Many of us commented over the years that "somebody should write a book about...". At least Baldwin did so.

Dick Baldwin's book was about trapshooting only. My Dick Baldwin file is several thick binders of original Parker and Remington-Parker memos, charts, and correspondence that Dick had accumulated over decades. I am very pleased that he chose me to save and protect his collection. Unfortunately, some PGCA types, some living, some dead, chose to make it difficult for me to share it. When some other curators of Parker information decide to open their files, I will open mine. These people know who they are. I have identified them on this forum many times.

Bill, when you decide the time is right for you to share them will you be posting these memos and other letters/documents on the forum here? In the past you have said you don’t know how to post images on the forum… If this is still the case, I would be pleased to help you in any way I can.





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I sold some Remington factory memos concerning Parker to someone who is,or was,a member here years ago.The dates were from the late 40's to the early 50's as I recall.Info that I can recall was parts on hand and work that could be done for repair. There were several sheets of single papers and one stapled group of papers.Maybe this doesn't help much unless I could remember who I sold it to.

Sounds pretty selfish of those individuals and to what end? That they pass from this world and still "own" some information? Oh well.