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I'm sincerely in awe of you folks who shoot -- and have shot -- so much for so many years. If I get 100 shots in a season with today's paucity of birds, I consider that a good year of shooting.

My hat's off to all of you shooters. I have no desire to break clays or shoot pigeons, but I admire those of you who do and who do so with such passion.

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Originally Posted by todd allen (Post 405238)

I have shot the Fabbri on birds, and even had a chance to pick one up at a pretty reasonable price.
My friend, and mentor on pigeon shooting offered me a step ribbed Fabbri for $35k, which I should have jumped on. Could have made a hundred grand on that deal, but who knew they would make such a jump in value.
The last I heard that gun sold for 135k, and is now higher than p-tang on a Ferris wheel.
BTW, on a first barrel load, you should try a 1 1/8 oz load, and the standard pigeon load for the second barrel.
Pigeons often require a lightening fast second barrel.

I shoot to fast now LOL’s . Sometimes I don’t release the single trigger on my VHE enough to let it reset . Happened twice at the last shoot . Never had this issue at Colombaire , sporting or doubles trap . But in each of those I don’t try to shoot anywhere near as quick . In January of 2023 for boxbird quail I tried 1 1/8 of #8’s in the right barrel and a regular pigeon load in the left and wasn’t pleased . Saturday I’ll try my handload sporting loads which are pretty much the standard 1 1/8 target load in the right barrel and hammer loads in the left .

I nought a flat of these --

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when Morris first introduced them, but I've only lived here twenty years so I'm not well enough vetted here to get an invitation. Guess they will go to Wards when I'm dead.

I'm still looking for a box of Western Cartridge Co.'s Super-X, 3-inch, high velocity, Lubaloy Pigeon load they offered from February 1929 --

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Originally Posted by Dave Noreen (Post 405250)

I bought some of the RST pigeon loads at Rock Mountain three years ago . Seems to me the ones I had were said to be 1365 fps , I do know they crumpled pigeons very well .

RST offered the Pigeon loads in 3 1/4-, 3 1/2- & 3 3/4-Drams Equiv.

Todd, interesting post, regarding the names on the scorecard ....... I've shot flyers with Scotten a few times at Broxton Bridge in SC, and recognize Bonillas, though I never shot with him.

Destry and I shot box birds twice at the Philadelphia Gun Club overlooking the Delaware River. Most fun I ever had with my clothes on.

Shooting trap over the Detroit river at the Bayview yacht club requires that you shoot steel shot

Todd, I've been every lucky as my kid brother has collected "Live Pigeon" Guns for the last 35 years and we shoot them on a regular bases. He was international pilot hence in Europe on regular bases. My two favorites are a Lefever and hammered Jefferys (only 1 of 6) which has a usual history. Funny side note, he offered to bring his collection to the Whittington Center in New Mexico for display with one stipulation (insurance policy at replacement value) and they wouldn't not agree to his request.

My pigeon gun collection started when my uncle REAed me my grandfather's dedicated Lefever E Grade pigeon gun around 1958. The gun had been inactive since granddad's death in 1929. He closed his pigeon ring in 1927. My latest pigeon gun is a Daniel Fraser steel barrel hammer gun. I have not seen another like it.