Originally Posted by Daryl Corona (Post 402859)

I've said this before and I'll say it again Andy...Just shoot the damn thing and forget about the chokes. Looks like you're doing that with that 16/ O frame:whistle:

Originally Posted by Frank Srebro (Post 402845)

Dean, I don't know if the swell was done from the breech or muzzle ends but it's long been described as a way to "normalize" the bare shot charge before starting into the choke. It's not as pronounced as jug choking. The earliest references to the swell I've seen were by Askins and Sweeley in the early 1920's as they experimented with borings and chokes for max long range pattern efficiencies, that was prior to the advent of the Super-Fox which was largely based on their work. What I wonder about now is what effect, if any, the swell has on performance with plastic shotcups. One of these days I'll do some comparative long range patterning with bare shot and shotcups to check for myself. Actually I had planned to do that in part for a DGJ article and that's why it slipped to the back burner when the editors pulled the plug. I've seen these swells on a few Foxes, Parkers, Winchester M12's, M21's and 101's.

Originally Posted by Andrew Sacco (Post 402862)

Daryl I think you're sorely mistaken. It has nothing to do with shooting it, I just want to have an inventory of my stuff and make better buying decisions. I don't pay much attention to chokes. I have ordered a Perazzi and I'm considered a heretic because I did NOT get screw in chokes. I hate choke tubes and shoot what I got. The only thing I don't like is very open chokes all the time. Not enough dust is created that way.

Originally Posted by Daryl Corona (Post 402954)

Didn't mean it that way Andy. Just saying that you do so well with your tightly choked 16 and yes, for reference purposes and for better buying conditions you are on the right track.

In the last year I have acquired 3 Perazzis, a 12, 20 and 28. Only the 12 has screw ins and they came with the gun. They are Teague and they are wonderful. Written in bold letters inside the tube case is "do not underchoke". I leave the M and IM in full time. The MX28 has fixed M/IM and the MX20 has M/M. Yea, I like em tight.

Originally Posted by Daryl Corona (Post 402859)

I've said this before and I'll say it again Andy...Just shoot the damn thing and forget about the chokes. Looks like you're doing that with that 16/ O frame:whistle: