I really don’t believe we should be kicking a guy when he’s down. It will all sort out.





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Dean has a good point.

Eight months is more than enough time to "sort it out".

In past I have met his son Luke in the shop. You might try to find him via Whitepages.com. Somewhere along the way I heard his sister was involved, I don't know if that is true, her name is Tracey. She is on Facebook but she does not list any contact info. She posted the following information regarding Lawrence on 9/22/23:

After six trips to Minnesota...my brother has some good news to share. Cancer markers in his blood within normal range, no metastasis, tumor is shrinking and dramatic decrease in visible cancer on PetScan. This chemo is working. The plan moving forward is 4 more months of chemo and then surgery to remove tumor, part of pancreas and spleen. Praying that he continues to tolerate chemo, while it works to kill ever cancer cell in his body! Thank you for your constant thoughts and prayers.

A road I've traveled and now experiencing: Many years ago Dan Cote" sent a fine English Shotgun to a well known gunsmith who suddenly had serious family health issues and couldn't be reached for almost two years. My brother and I had the opportunity in our travels to locate this gunsmith and take possession of Dan's gun and deliver it to Kirby Holt and back to Cote". Fast forward ~ 10 years and said gunsmith had returned and has been producing stellar work on English Shotguns. However earlier this year he notified us (brother & I) he was having issues!!!! I was able to immediately travel to his shop and retrieve multiple guns from one of his staff members. Unfortunately they were unable to locate a Beautiful Joseph Lang and the shop is now closed and we are unable to get any response from said gunsmith and/or his family. We were told by the Gun Shop employee we would be contacted and we are still waiting 9 months later.

George, I would say in these situations you have to recognize that "reality bites" (e.g., non communication after multiple attempts) and go into hardball mode. I would report the gun as stolen to the BATFE, who will in turn enter it on the NCIS list. Before they do that, they will scan their FFL log entries; if that gun is recorded under an active FFL, I can assure you things will warm up quickly.

Kevin's idea is a good one. While it's a lot of paperwork and hassle reporting them to the attorney general, that has worked for me once or twice on other issues. Be forewarned it sure burns a lot of bridges having the AG call a business due to a criminal complaint. Years ago a furniture maker delivered the wrong table and chairs and wouldn't take them back or respond to any calls. After 6 mos I got the AG on the case and lo and behold, I got a new set and they offered to let me keep the incorrect set.

I had a incident with Delgrego years ago.His mother ultimately handled the situation(returning calls) and gun was shipped back regular mail without ANY insurance.

1. How do you know there was no insurance? 2. How does scanning the FFL gun sales help to find a missing gun when the 4473 does not identify the gun. I am not being picky. I would like to recover my missing gun too.

The atf would likely be little help. You would maybe get farther with local law enforcement. Not that I condone or promote that sort of action.