Scott, "standard trap loads" have not been 1240 or 1250 fps at any time I can remember. Most shooters see 1200 as standard and a little less if they are concerned with recoil.

Seems to me that trap shooters are more impacted by recoil- look at the recoil reducers, release triggers, etc. which are often seen on the trap line You don't see that very often with skeeters. What's the cause? Stock configuration? Stouter loads?

You may be correct . But a lot of skeet shooters don’t even shoot 12 gauge in the all bore event . Back when I was doing it a good many of the big boys shoot a 20 in the all gauge event . When I was doing It I had one reciever stock set-up for skeet and trap . I’d just change the barrels . For me using the same 12 gauge loads for skeet as I used in trap , I noticed the recoil more with the 28” skeet barrel then I did with the 34” unsingle barrel or the 32” doubles barrel . I think that may have been the way I stood in skeet vs trap . But for me using the same 12 loads the recoil was more noticeable with the skeet barrel .

Bill, my mistake, typo i ment 1140 to 1150 not 1240 to 50, thanks for finding my mistake. Yes 1250 would hurt in a 100 bird event.:eek:
Scott

I bought some Longshot and loaded a few "light" test loads. Still too hot in my 20 ga guns. A magnum powder for sure. Can't use this powder and it will go away this coming weekend at the club.
Much prefer 20/28.

I’m not disagreeing with the less pressure/velocity thing but I damn sure like the heavy RST and RIO 1 1/4 1300-1360 FPS loads . When I shoot those it’ll be 30-60 shots in a day and to me they’re not so bad . But then I don’t think a thirty bird 8 gauge event shooting 1 1/2 ounces is so bad either .

Craig, there is no recoil in box birds.

There’s no recoil in anything until the end of the day when you might have a slight headache .

I know that Craig is shooting those big loads at tower pheasants and box and thrown pigeons. Those are the loads that I would also prefer for those targets. Craig didn't specify his targets, only the number of shells shot in a day. I don't think it was sporting clays.

I don’t shoot pigeon loads at tower shoots . All my pigeon loads are 7 1/2’s I prefer 6’s at tower shoots . I did however shoot pigeon loads at quail boxbirds this past January . I thought boxbird quail were going to be chip shots . Turns out I was quite wrong .