I'll post some pics in the Other fine doubles forum soon. I'm not good at this and need to be walked through the process.

The details are it's a Holland & Holland 20 ga, 26 inch bbls straight grip with just a wonderfull piece of Marble cake walnut in it. There is a factory letter and the gun is exactly as it left the factory in 1954. It was sold originally in London. Cased with the original owners name embossed on the Oak and Leather case. Weight 5lb 9oz a Grouse/Woodcock gun for sure:cheers:

Hi Richard.
Sounds like a very nice gun H.H 20 Bore a man could wait a life time for a gun like that.
All the best Dave.

some people have all the luck...nice find richard...that gun may be a grouse gun for sure but i betcha she would be a fine quail gun and i would not be surprized if it mite not be a good phez gun... waiting for pictures charlie and the rest of the gang

Lots of guns are aluminum nowadays but me personally like my shotguns 9 lbs + . I think my crass was made in 1891 if they made hammerless crass at that time? I think its serial number is 150xx ithaca said they lost records on numbers from 10,000-16000. I like the simple yet sturdy mechanisms of yesteryear

Hey Rich... Where are the pictures???

( to think,... I had that gun in my hands {put 'despair and anguish' emoticon here} :crying:)

Dean there in my mind waiting to be developed:rotf: Actually I'll try to take them tonight and get them posted on the Other Fine Doubles section....If I can get the O.P. to walk me through the process:eek:

Talking about made in america any of y'all heard of Butch searcy. That's my icon. He males fine sxs rifles not shotguns yet.though

The Holland & Holland pics are up in the "Other Fine Doubles" catagory titled British Best. My thanks to the O.P. AKA Dave Suponski hor walking me through this quagmire of Technology:bowdown:

I have herd of Butch Searcy and he makes a fine double rifle. A 450/400 would make a fine deer rifle:eek:. I hear you snickering but I've used my 416 Taylor befor:D