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 That looks great Craig. I'm thinking I have a tad bit to much material and may need to back off the pre crimp a little. Waiting for some more knowledgeable than me to chime in. Is that hull in your pic new or possibly once fired? 
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 once fired 
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 Probably a little easier to work with I'd assume. I want to get one of those Super Crimp starters from BP for these new hulls if they ever get any in stock. 
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 Randy it's kinda hard to tell from the photo angle but you might benefit from raising the load height just a bit, "tightening" the crimp. Try a few with a 16 ga. 1/8" cork in the bottom of the shot cup or a 1/16" 10 ga. card over the shot. I've tortured myself for many years with different loads looking for that consistently perfect crimp! Different things work with different loads without constantly adjusting dies. I keep careful notes and when changing loads in the same gauge I don't mess with the setup, the simple addition of a card or cork can make a world of difference and they're CHEAP! A slightly different wad sometimes is the answer. You can make yourself crazy adjusting dies for each load, bismuth vs. lead, etc. 
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 Keith I had to use a 1/4" and an 1/8" cork wad under the shot already to get enough stack height. I'm gonna play with the pre crimp a little and then I can try your suggestion. Thanks. 
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 No shame there. I use a Remington SP10 wad and a 1/2" non treated fiber wad in the shot cup in some of my 1 1/4 oz. lead shot loads. Loads nicely and shoots great, clays and doves hate'em! Appears that big, soft fiber wad also absorbs some of the acceleration and lowers pressures slightly as well. 
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		This is a nice one to shoot. Not sure why I have such a variation, suspicious I  was inconsistent with seating pressure, gotta work on that and test again. These were specifically for a damascus gun, 1888 vintage Parker hammerless. 
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 Exactly what I do. 
	On the Longshot, I was looking for low pressures for Damascus guns and powder availability being what it is I bought some because I could. Actually pretty impressed, have had very good results in 10 ga. AND, still fooling with it but 20 ga. as well. Kinda doesn't sound likely but test results don't lie.  | 
		
 Keith that's the load I'm working with except I had the powder down to 29 grains. I was going to send it off for testing but now I don't have to. Thanks. I like those low pressures. 
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