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allen newell 12-11-2021 05:44 PM

When I was just a boy growing up in the northeast, a 16 ga Parker was the gun to hunt grouse with.. And pheasant too.

Robert Brooks 12-12-2021 02:58 PM

When i was a boy growing up in Georgia Browning A5s were the bird guns in 16 and 12 gauge with no plugs. Bobby

allen newell 12-12-2021 04:25 PM

When I became a 'man', the 16 ga still ruled

Greg Baehman 12-12-2021 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean Romig (Post 350068)
The Q1 & Q2 markings were simply a Parker Reproduction contrivance of Skeet Out & Skeet In.

I have to say Dean, you're kinda right, but I don't think you're totally right. Now I could be wrong, but when we're talking about original Parker Skeet Out/Skeet In chokes, generally speaking the right barrel is the Skeet Out (tighter) choke and the left barrel is the Skeet In (more open) choke. In addition, these orig. Parker choke designations are typically constricted a few thousandths tighter than Parker Repro Q1 and Quail 2 or their predecessor SK1/SK2 chokings. Furthermore, Repros had the more open constriction (Q1) in the right barrel and the tighter choke (Q2) in the left barrel.

Dean Romig 12-12-2021 05:53 PM

Okay, I just measured the chokes in Kathy’s Repro 28 ga. with Q1 and Q2 stamps.
You’re right Greg about the tighter choke being in the left barrel of a Repro but these are more open than my 28 ga. VHE Skeet gun.
Repro chokes are Rt.- .004” and Left- .009” while the VHE is Rt.- .015” and Left is .008”







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Greg Baehman 12-12-2021 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean Romig (Post 350177)
Okay, I just measured the chokes in Kathy’s Repro 28 ga. with Q1 and Q2 stamps.
You’re right Greg about the tighter choke being in the left barrel of a Repro but these are more open than my 28 ga. VHE Skeet gun.
Repro chokes are Rt.- .004” and Left- .009” while the VHE is Rt.- .015” and Left is .008”.

Isn't that what I said? Besides the left/right reversal, original Parker Skeet Out/Skeet In chokes are tighter that Repro Q1/Q2 chokes. My 28ga. Q1/Q2 Repro has .004/.007 constrictions, same constrictions as in my 20ga. Q1/Q2 Repro.

Greg Baehman 12-12-2021 06:45 PM

Re-reading your reply Dean, I do see where your 28ga. left barrel is a hair more open than Kathy's left barrel, but your orig. 28ga. is a hair tighter than my 28 and 20ga. Repros. Mea culpa.

Is your orig. Parker stamped Skeet Out/Skeet in?

Dean Romig 12-12-2021 07:43 PM

No it’s not. It’s a 1935 gun but apparently just a couple of weeks or months before Remington began to stamp the flats with the Skeet stamps.





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Dean Romig 12-12-2021 08:31 PM

And I just re-learned another small point about the Q1 and Q2 chokes and stamps…
“New barrel choke designations - Quail 1 & Quail 2 - were added as an option on all gauges. Apparently these chokes were introduced to appeal to quail hunters. These choke designations were dropped and Skeet 1 - & Skeet 2 chokes were offered in a revised brochure, circa 1988.”
…So, the Q1 & Q2 were dropped in the revised brochure but was the stamp on the barrel flats revised as well? Are there any Parker Reproductions out there with stamps of Skeet 1 & Skeet 2 ???





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Greg Baehman 12-12-2021 09:09 PM

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Yes, Dean I have seen a very few with Skeet 1/Skeet 2
stamps.

I read the same explanation of the switch from Q1/Q2 to SK1/SK2 that you have, but came to what may be an erroneous conclusion in that it was really the other way around -- that being the Skeet designations came first. I guess it was because we see so many more with the Q1/Q2 designations.

Not the best pic, but here's a 28ga. 26" set of barrels factory choked Skeet 1/Skeet 2. This was part of a 2-bbl. set, the other set is 26" IC/M.


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