I shoot a ph grade 3 frame 12 ga its hade a new stock and chabers lengthened to 3 inch...it weighs 9 1/4 lbs...barrels are modified and modified 32 inch...I duck hunt with 3 inch steel shot heavy loads...I have had it for 7 years now first 4 years it was used a lot...it has never showed any sign of barrel damage with steel shot and the stock and gun are still good no cracks and these are stub twist barrels..charlie

Your price range would buy you and original A grade AH Fox 20. The original or older seem to have a better feel...
Chris, AZ

I am looking at a model 21 I ran across. Trading info back and forth with the guy.

Also, if I run across a really nice Trojan with 28" barrels I am sort of liking that as an option.

My go to upland gun is a Trojan 16g 28". I shoot Fiocchi SD shells and handloaded spreaders. No problems at all with the reasonable modern ammo and they kill grouse, mudbat, ditch chickens, huns, bunnies, squirrels,,,,,,,,

What is a mudbat?

It’s a rarely used colloquialism for a woodcock.





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More appropriate for snipe.

A local term for a woodcock.

My friend Mike and I are both local to each other though he's a transplant from flatlander country and I often chide him on that "mudbat" term. Except for a few years I've been local my entire life, have hunted woodcock with many friends since I was a kid, and never heard that term except from Mike and now some of his plebes. :rotf:

What are your chokes Mike? Spreader right barrel and SD left barrel?