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Oh I agree totally when a seller misrepresents a gun.

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Originally Posted by John Bastiani (Post 322032)

I wish there was nobody that could replicate Parker colors as it has led to some guns being sold as original cased guns when they are not. I had a buddy who bought what was advertised as an original BHE(80 to 85% case) from a known dealer. When he got ready to sell the gun 30 years later he found that the gun had been recased. It was almost impossible to tell from some originals we looked at. He ended up showing the gun to some guys from the Parker Collectors display at a show a few years ago at OGCA(I believe) and they informed him that the gun had been re-cased. It was a around a 1915 gun from what I remember and had a weep hole which it shouldn't have had for that era. I believe thats how the gentleman determined the gun had been redone. Also: Mr. Turnbull does excellent work and is honest in letting people know if he has redone a gun.

I am not sure "weep" holes indicate that it had been re-cased. Barrels are often redone when nothing else is for any number of reasons. And it is easier to redo barrels than recase a gun. I wasn't inferring that Turnbull doesn't do good work, only that I have had folks question how close his colors are to original (which they will never be).

You get a dent in the barrel , raise the dent and you may have to reblue the barrels. Get some blood on the barrels, then rust , same thing.

Some people just have to see shiny blue black barrels.

Look for wear on the standing breach face. Look for sharp engraving . Worn checkering. Even I can do that !

If you see enough original guns, you just know what to look for.
And there are plenty of very good examples of high condition guns documented in the various writings/books about Parkers. If those are studied, one will learn all they need to know and what to look for.

I took a very high condition AHE to Brad B, and as he looked at the gun, he called the man who did his barrrel refinishing out to look at the gun, and said "This is what an original gun looks like. That's what we're trying to recreate on the barrels"

If I get duped by someone representing a gun as original, when it is not, I get mad at one person and only one. Me, for not educating myself enough before I dropped the big bucks.

A lying dealer is one thing. A dealer who doesn't know originality any better than me is another.

Caveat emptor.

SRH

Yup Stan, you nailed it!

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Originally Posted by John Bastiani (Post 322028)

I emailed Mr. Hall yesterday about getting the Volume 22 issue 1 Parker pages and the Spring 2008 issue as well. I had previously emailed him about the Spring 2008 issue and never got a response.

John:

I don't know how long ago you sent the first request, but my experience with Mr. Hall when I requested a back issue of PARKER PAGES, was that I got no response to my email, but I got exactly what I was asking for delivered to me.

It was an unusual case of, "all action, and no talk".

The postal service is slow these days, but I believe you will get from Mr. Hall exactly what you emailed him for.

Bruce, always great to see your "ole stuff", thanks for sharing.

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Originally Posted by Russell E. Cleary (Post 322109)

Okay! Thanks