Mike there is no Very good certification from the OFA and "preliminary results" don't count,
Its like serial numbers on parkers you have the Hip and Elbow certification numbers from the OFA number or you don't.


look up OFA for animals its quite a effort from John Olins dream.

Decoverly didn’t give paperwork on OFA, told us the result was GOOD. PennHip was negative for any issues too. We did a good breeding with good dogs. Really doesn’t matter to us if you don’t like it. We have a close relationship with Danny Lawrence and Bridget Bodine and will continue to do so.

breeding purebred English setters has evolved Mike and the people you are getting advise from are two of the worst. the Ryman Setter group was formed to educate and inform customers and breeders about the Best Practices. Perhaps you should do your due diligence and get the proper health clearances like reputable breeders. You should at least suggest ALL buyers get health insurance on their pups. Bilateral hip and elbow dysplasia is very real and very expensive to correct. I had a dog from Royal sterling (dysplastic hips at 2 years old) and another from Brigit that was Dysplastic as well. this is VERY REAL regardless what you were told. its ok if you "Dont care" what I think but crippled dogs suffer and that's what concerns me.

Ladies and gentlemen, due to a dog Nazi hijacking my thread I will reply to your inquiries via PM. Thank you.

Wow, not a hijack but a massacre of a thread.
Not sure it was necessary to put down Mike in that manner.
If you wanted educate us on issues you could have started a separate thread.
IMHO if someone feels a need to denigrate someone to uplift their own business, well....
Good luck with the litter, Mike.

Actually, the question(s) could have been asked and answered via Private Message. If any potential buyer had that question, they can also ask.

As far as I know, English Setters do not have a breed warden.

The last puppy sold on Sunday! There were four potential buyers in line. All eight are going to new homes the end of next week. They are all right around thirteen lbs and growing like weeds!! My Mick is really developing some gorgeous tri-coloration. Onward and upward!!

Here are Mick and Mamma (Jo). Mick is 12 weeks old today! The apple didn’t fall far from the tree!

Wow - that’s incredible!





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Isn’t it??!! Uncanny resemblance.